Few vids of a local Supra

[mambastu]

Originally Posted by Richf

As for 600's it depends on the bike some stock 600's will run low tens they may not be pulling as hard over 120mph but they will be there a lot quicker and i would still expect them to be able to outpull 99% of street cars

Some very slightly modified 600's with good riders can run strong 9's there is a dedicated championship for them

I think my ZX6r Ninja was quoted at around 10.9 to 11 quarter (127 ish mph terminal) when it was reviewed in Superbike many years ago and yet I've run it against a 400bhp RB'd RS13 and they were perfectly matched on a rolling start 30 to 130mph sprint. Didn't quite believe it so repeated it with me driving the car and the other person riding the bike and the result was exactly the same.
You don't need a massive amount of power to stay with a 600 sportsbike from a rolling start. A 500ish hp GTR would do it I'd imagine.

Big bore bikes are going to need a lot more power, completely different animal.

[kaneda]

Nova and GS300 runs.

[G40tee]

Originally Posted by kaneda

3 things about Ghetto Birds:

1. They're rare. I've seen them twice in 5 years.

2. They're slow. Most commercial helicopters can't top 130.

3. Run towards the airport. ATCs won't give clearance.

Not that I've ever done any of these things of course.

Youve clearly never heard of Airwolf then! haha

[Richf]

Originally Posted by mambastu

I think my ZX6r Ninja was quoted at around 10.9 to 11 quarter (127 ish mph terminal) when it was reviewed in Superbike many years ago and yet I've run it against a 400bhp RB'd RS13 and they were perfectly matched on a rolling start 30 to 130mph sprint. Didn't quite believe it so repeated it with me driving the car and the other person riding the bike and the result was exactly the same.
You don't need a massive amount of power to stay with a 600 sportsbike from a rolling start. A 500ish hp GTR would do it I'd imagine.

Big bore bikes are going to need a lot more power, completely different animal.

Will a 500hp GTR run a 10.9??? I wouldnt have thought so i would think you would need 600hp+

The vid I posted was a 2002 zx6 with a decent rider (NOT mag journo) , decent times rely far more on good technique than it does with cars.

Blasting some muppet on a sportbike is no great achievement A)If he isnt trying or B) has no talent

[Richf]

When i lived near Heathrow the car thieves always headed towards the airport if chased becuase of the issues with getting clearance

[mambastu]

Originally Posted by Richf

Will a 500hp GTR run a 10.9??? I wouldnt have thought so i would think you would need 600hp+

The vid I posted was a 2002 zx6 with a decent rider (NOT mag journo) , decent times rely far more on good technique than it does with cars.

Blasting some muppet on a sportbike is no great achievement A)If he isnt trying or B) has no talent

The point I was trying to make (unsuccessfully as it turned out) was that my 405 bhp 200SX matched my 108 bhp ZX6r in spite of the bikes obvious power to weight ratio advantage from a 30mph rolling start.
Theres absolutely no way that my 200SX could have done a 10.9 quarter so the bike is obviously very quick off the line and in initial accelleration in comparison to the car. The bike has a very very long first gear which helps in that respect and doesn't suffer from traction issues.
A GTR (and Supra TT) is only around 175kg heavier than my RB'd 200SX so I don't see why a 500bhp GTR couldn't match the bike in the same way my 200 did from a rolling start.

I am under no illusion how fast bikes are. I've been tuning and driving cars for 20 years and riding bikes for 12 years now. A 600 sportsbike is good fun and probably as much as most people need but not not in the same league as a 1000cc superbike or a Hayabusa. They're much quicker than a 6.

[kaneda]

Judging by how that 33 pulled last week, he'd of walked a 600 easily and that was on 2530s and pump gas. It's also not uncommon for stock twin Supras to take down 600cc bikes.

[hyrev]

Too bad they cannot have the camera inside the car so we do not hear all the air noise or have the mic inside the car.

[kaneda]

Yeah, a wide angle camera that didn't need night vision, that was less sensitive to shock and a mic in the cockpit would be optimal.

I'm waiting on a hefty insurance settlement ATM and fingers crossed I'll have a singled Supra myself in the very near future, if I so, the first things I'm buying after that are a damn good camera and a few gallons of VP 117.

GS300 (61 mm, AEM, built auto, 3800 rpm stall) vs Supra (71mm)

[GTR FREAK!]

Originally Posted by kismetcapitan

that wasn't a Busa, it was a 600. Any sport bike 600 and up will beat virtually any car off the line, but 600cc - you run out of power at 110-120mph. You're right about the Hayabusa though, nothing (carwise and (stock) bikes) can really outpull one over 150mph - all these videos of cars beating Busas, well, it's because it's one thing to drive 160mph in a car on a public road with bumps and traffic ruts, and a whole different ballpark to do 160mph on a bike. You can come off a MotoGP bike at that speed and live because you're on a track with gravel traps and you've 99% lowsided, but even with full riding gear, if you come off a bike at 160mph on a street, you've lost stability and you're tank-slapping, highsiding, you'll die and they'll be collecting your corpse in 3-4 pieces.

Conducted a race against a busa in germany once, fastest to 200mph i was in the supra.....the bike got beat.....

[mifn21]

Bikes are very un-aerodynamic mate (well, the person perched on it is!), its no surprise you won
Above 100mph on a bike the thing sitting on top of it tends to add a fair bit of drag

[GTR FREAK!]

well thats true but my view is he shouldnt have taken the race if i couldnt do it, but fair play to him he went the distance....just took longer to get there than it did us....!!!

[kaneda]

New vid!

This time I held the camera and he ran on the highway so no night vision.

71mm Supra (1 bar) and bolt-on C6 Corvette, bolt-on GTO, twin turbo C5 Corvette, GS300 and a couple others

[kaneda]

New trip to Mexico!

71mm Supra (Camera car) vs 76mm Supra (White Car)

Camera car is on VP Import (120+ Octane) at 28-29 psi, VPC, 264 Cams, RL TC, white car is on unknown fuel (116 min) at 30+lbs, AEM EMS, both cars on stock blocks.

[kaneda]

71 mm Supra (Camera car) vs 76mm Supra (Black Car)

76 mm car has built head, cams, 3.2 liter bottom end, AEM EMS, Nitrous, etc., spun through 5th!