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[PS30-SB]

Originally Posted by <jay>

The differences between ozys car and a s30 I see as small and not worth worrying over, whereas you see them as big differences.

How about this scenario: I might have an inkling of just how different ozy's car is from what you are calling an "S30", and I think you don't, and that's one of the reasons why I'm voicing my concern.

By the way, the C-S31 models were technically part of the S30-series - so you can see just what a can of worms this can become. The 'S30'-series encompasses a huge range of models, specs and possible options, so it quite often becomes necessary to know what your car came as from the factory in order to get to the bottom of things. Nowhere is this more important than with the Japanese home market models. Follow the data and parts lists for the Export models and you'll find yourself with lots of unanswered questions, or spending money on parts that don't work / don't fit.

The other day I saw ozy talking about getting a carpet set from the USA. Of course, it won't fit - will it? That's a very basic one - but there will undoubtedly be more to trip him up in future, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by <jay>

You remind me of my neighbour, take things way too seriously

you seem to be "By The Book" kind of guy

As I've said before elsewhere, your impression of me is in your head. Yes, I'm posting here because arguably I take the subject somewhat too seriously - but who do you ask for help when you get stumped? I don't know about you but I go to my gurus, and they tend to be the type of people who have the factory data, as well as the experience in tuning / modifying the cars.

They often have the parts I'm looking for too!

[ozyZED]

ok, time to kiss and make up a little bit

im sorry i went at you on zclub, i didnt like the tone being taken with me and my innocent questions. this was compounded when i asked the mod to stick 280z (in recognition of my car) to be added to the forum section, you know 240/260 area. and so it was added, then promptly removed.
so its 240/260
then 280zx and so on.
skipping my model thats so different that it should be recognised aggressively on several other forums. so im wondering, its not seperate enough for zclub to accept it, but its so different that all other sites should.
this is why ive not cared since about what its called.

this was happening while my thread was being pissed on. excuse the accusatory tone there, just a saying.

so there are similarities and differences, grand, we should leave it at that.
when i go looking for carpets, ill make sure to keep in my years and if its american reproductions, ill try to ensure that its rhd drive friendly and whatever else when i finally get round to spending money on it someday in the far distant future.

not to stoke things up again, im just not that concerned about the difference. again, i dont mean to be flippant, im just a casual car guy.

will the mods lock this up. this could go on forever

[PS30-SB]

Originally Posted by ozyZED

im sorry i went at you on zclub, i didnt like the tone being taken with me and my innocent questions. this was compounded when i asked the mod to stick 280z (in recognition of my car) to be added to the forum section, you know 240/260 area. and so it was added, then promptly removed.
so its 240/260
then 280zx and so on.
skipping my model thats so different that it should be recognised aggressively on several other forums. so im wondering, its not seperate enough for zclub to accept it, but its so different that all other sites should.
this is why ive not cared since about what its called.

Of course you realise that the subsections at the Z Club forum are nothing to do with me ( I'm not even a club member ) and that I had sympathy for the fact that you car didn't fit into the '240' / '260' etc brackets? I'm in the same boat. What puzzled me was you asking for a '280Z' section to be added when your car is, er, ( stop me if you've heard this one before ), not a '280Z' anyway.

I own three Japanese market S30-series Zs that technically don't fit into into those categories either, but I think the mods explained that - as far as the forum is concerned - it would become far too complicated if they had a sub-section for each non-UK model ( there's tons of 'em ), which is fair enough I think.

There's no specific forum section here at gtr.co.uk for my KPGC10 either, but that's hardly surprising, is it? Owners of unusual models have to be pragmatic, and anyway I think it's fun to have something that isn't quite what people think it is. That's why I said I thought you should be proud to own a modified C-S31 'Fairlady Z', rather than trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole......

Anyway, you know where I am if you need part numbers, wiring diagrams or that kind of thing.

[<jay>]

What exactly are the differences in Ozy's car to say a 260z?

I mean would a front wing off a 260z fit Ozys car? brake discs, suspension?

I know there will be differences in wiring, My car was brought in from OZ and when changing the dash there were alot of differences with the wiring.

[ozyZED]

@ps30-sb
bingo, its not a 280 either, thats why is was so casual saying 240z and even joking 300z. i dont want to go down the chassis thing, because whatever chance the average dude has knowing what a 240z is (in ireland, there arent many of these and you get grown men asking "hey, whats that?") then theyll be lost with c-s31.
so i give the 5 minute shakedown.
last week some randomer came up and asked "is that a 280" and i go "yeah, but, no but" like vicky pollard of little britain then went on about japan and how it originally had a 2.0litre etc etc

to be honest, ive just reverted to fairlady z. im slowly accepting that its not gay sounding, but the numbers are easier and more macho. to anyone that knows me and it, its just Zed.

the proud thing... this is my problem, i didnt build or do anything, just point and buy.
if i ever learned any mechanical skills and built something, then i could be proud, maybe. but saying that, im not particularly proud of the house ive just restored, it needed to be done and it was. but again, im a stickler for this proud business.

kpgc10 should have its own section!
but thats an argument for someone else!

[PS30-SB]

Originally Posted by <jay>

What exactly are the differences in Ozy's car to say a 260z?

I mean would a front wing off a 260z fit Ozys car? brake discs, suspension?

I know there will be differences in wiring, My car was brought in from OZ and when changing the dash there were alot of differences with the wiring.

jay,
Your question illustrates part of my point: Which '260Z' do you mean?

An early ( late 1973 production ) UK market RS30U '260Z' has literally hundreds of differences from a late ( 1977 production ) UK-market RS30U '260Z'. For example, the doors will not interchange between 'early' and 'late' versions as they have different latch mechanisms that can not be swapped without chopping the doors up.......

Go onto the internet to investigate this, and you will often come across information that originates from the USA / north American market models - but the north American market got the RLS30 '260Z' which had many differences to the UK market models, and they only had it for what amounts to a year or so - when it was superseded by the '280Z' model. See how complicated this can become.......?

Ozy's C-S31 Fairlady Z would have originally been one of three different trim / equipment specs when it was new ( 'Fairlady Z', 'Fairlady Z-L' or 'Fairlady Z-T' ) and it can be quite difficult to find out exactly which it was without seeing the original documentation from when the car was new - and especially after the car has been modified. This does not matter up until the point that something needs replacing or refurbishment, and then much headscratching can ensue when trying to find out which part number is needed, or which part from a UK market ( or USA market ) car will interchange with it.

Case in point: A few months ago I gave away a couple of front hubs to somebody that needed them in a hurry. I was sure that I had another couple of pairs in my garages that I could refurb to replace them, but only realised when I came to knock the old bearings out that I'd given away my last pair of late '73-on hubs and only had the '69~'73 type left - so now my brake discs would be sitting at the wrong offset to the brake calipers. The difference is very subtle, but has a big effect.

I could have kicked myself. I had to hunt around for a good pair of hubs, which was not easy and ended up costing me a fair few quid. And it's getting more and more difficult to find this stuff.....

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o o o i have a friend with a 240z with janspeed turbo conversion lots of fun and stunning