Tuning R33 Gtst - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

m6beg · 21st April 2003, 10:34 AM

I Have A R33gtst

Very Pleased Aswell Fast But Not Fast Enough It Has Had An Exhaust De Cat HKS Super Drager

HKS Air Induction

Greddy PRofec.Bspec Boost Upgrade HKS Super SQV Blow Off Valve

Cusco Strut Brace

What Do I Do Next Would Be Very Gratefull For Any Advice

Skip · 21st April 2003, 11:45 AM

I am looking to buy a GTS and have been researching tuning them. The standard turbo is the limiting factor, I have read elsewhere that you cant really run more than 0.9 bar without melting the turbo, so I would recommend a FMIC and some kind of turbo upgrade...

Hope this helps!

mattb · 24th April 2003, 12:01 PM

need a steel head gasket to lower the compression ratio as that is a big limiting factor. Trouble is you loose off boost performance if your not careful.

Matt_S · 24th April 2003, 01:54 PM

Use the search function - this has been duscussed many times. Look in Engine Mods and Turbos forums aswell. Lots there. Do a search using my name if you like - Ive asked the same questions!

Im gonna have to get a new turbo soon. Ive reached the max power I can acheive on std poopy turbo.
I would say get a turbo sorted (min cost £400). Up the boost a bit, preferably on the rollers to check fuelling etc. AFM is no good for much above 350bhp. Std Fuel pump needs ditching when chasing 300bhp, then FMIC - get a decent one - good enough for at LEAST your minimum future power aims. Most Jap spec FMICs (HKS/Apexi/Blitz to name a few) are good for at least 400 - hopefully 450 bhp. Injectors are OK for a safe 370bhp.
Engine is OK for about 350-370 I reckon, before it needs spitting. We'll see. I want the power but I dont want to split the lump.
Management may be the way round it. Lookin into all options myself right now. Turbos, management, MHG required?, how Im gonna pay for it - the usual stuff

This is obviously my opinion. Get a professional if you're not sure or confident. Enjoy the ride tho. Get a set of springs to help hang on in there.....

Skip · 24th April 2003, 02:29 PM

Keep us posted on any updates Matt...

I will be chasing 350+hp when I finally get mine...

What exhaust have you got by the way? It sounded awesome on the rollers at SCA at the SXOC RR day...!

sturm · 24th April 2003, 03:17 PM

down this road myself - based on what ive read im getting -

FMIC - Trust
Greddy e-manage
Downpipes
Cat replacement pipe
Apexi AVC-R
GTR fuel pump

Already have -

Apexi induction
Blitz exhaust

Hopefully with proper setting up I will hit the 300 bhp mark as these mods have produced close in other threads. WIll be done mid-May on rollers so I'll let you know how it went.

After this from what Ive read its a bit more money needed

Bigger turbo or steel internals
Metal Head gasket
Cams
Bigger injectors
Boost hike
Engine internals
AFM

All of which I'll go for eventually after I've worked my fingers to the bone

Should see 350 - 400 hopefully which is where I'll stop and buy a GTR lol

Good luck in the quest for power,
David

Skip · 24th April 2003, 03:23 PM

Apexi Induction and Blitz Nur spec are the first mods I intend to do!! Whats the induction noise like with the apexi filter? The standard one I drove yesterday was whispery quiet!!

I want whoshy noises!!!

sturm · 24th April 2003, 03:43 PM

If you are getting them then you will not hear an induction noise - the Nur Spec is so noisy - great noise - but so loud

mattb · 24th April 2003, 03:45 PM

Sturm,

Are there any pics of your GTSt anywhere as your avatar looks quite interesting?

Matt

sturm · 24th April 2003, 03:56 PM

i used an avatar from google im afraid

My scanner aint working so I cant get mine on the net yet - basically its red with a full GTR bodykit, clear repeaters (front and side)

Won't be making it look like the avatar as Im keeping the money for the engine mmmmmm!!

mattb · 24th April 2003, 03:58 PM

shame, nice car that one. Although yours doesn't sound that bad

Matt_S · 24th April 2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip
Apexi Induction and Blitz Nur spec are the first mods I intend to do!! Whats the induction noise like with the apexi filter? The standard one I drove yesterday was whispery quiet!!

I want whoshy noises!!!

I have both these on my car. Steve Carter told me you were at the SCA Roller day last month. I take it you didnt stay til the end when I got there then? Th enoise from the Power intake is loud. Very moorish too

I can here it over the exhaust aswell - even with the bung out.

You best get yourself down here so I can take youout for a rip up the road - even if it is at a loly 300bhp - not 330 (running 0.75 bar boost to preserve turbo a bit longer!)

But I must stress, it will feel quicker than any 300bhp GTS - cos Im carrying round about 250kg less

Skip · 25th April 2003, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt_S
I have both these on my car. Steve Carter told me you were at the SCA Roller day last month. I take it you didnt stay til the end when I got there then? Th enoise from the Power intake is loud. Very moorish too
I can here it over the exhaust aswell - even with the bung out.

You best get yourself down here so I can take youout for a rip up the road - even if it is at a loly 300bhp - not 330 (running 0.75 bar boost to preserve turbo a bit longer!)

But I must stress, it will feel quicker than any 300bhp GTS - cos Im carrying round about 250kg less

hehehe

Yup, I was there at the RR day, didnt run my car, didnt want to get shown up by the 1.8 and 2.0 pretenders!

I was there until the end, sorry if I left some drool on your car...

Well tasty motor you got there mate...

Sounds good to me, I will get Tanjuakio (200SX) and perhaps we will pop down to one of your Essex meets (if you have one!)

300brake in a Sileighty cant be sh1te!!!!

H4D UU · 25th April 2003, 10:46 AM

I have a Garret TO4S for-sale. Anyone interested?

Lee_Pendlebury · 25th April 2003, 11:12 AM

I might be interested.

Can you let me know roughly how much you would be looking for, the condition and weather it would be good to put on my FD or not. Would it require me to also get a front mount intercooler to be able to feal with it?

Cheers
Lee

Edit:
I thought that was a PM, nevermind. Please respond with a private message.

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24th April 2003, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Skip GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Norfolk Posts: 84	Keep us posted on any updates Matt... I will be chasing 350+hp when I finally get mine... What exhaust have you got by the way? It sounded awesome on the rollers at SCA at the SXOC RR day...! Last edited by Skip; 24th April 2003 at 02:37 PM.

24th April 2003, 03:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
sturm GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 207	starting down this road myself - based on what ive read im getting - FMIC - Trust Greddy e-manage Downpipes Cat replacement pipe Apexi AVC-R GTR fuel pump Already have - Apexi induction Blitz exhaust Hopefully with proper setting up I will hit the 300 bhp mark as these mods have produced close in other threads. WIll be done mid-May on rollers so I'll let you know how it went. After this from what Ive read its a bit more money needed Bigger turbo or steel internals Metal Head gasket Cams Bigger injectors Boost hike Engine internals AFM All of which I'll go for eventually after I've worked my fingers to the bone Should see 350 - 400 hopefully which is where I'll stop and buy a GTR lol Good luck in the quest for power, David

24th April 2003, 03:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
sturm GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 207	noise If you are getting them then you will not hear an induction noise - the Nur Spec is so noisy - great noise - but so loud

24th April 2003, 03:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
sturm GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 207	fake i used an avatar from google im afraid My scanner aint working so I cant get mine on the net yet - basically its red with a full GTR bodykit, clear repeaters (front and side) Won't be making it look like the avatar as Im keeping the money for the engine mmmmmm!!

21st April 2003, 11:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Skip GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Norfolk Posts: 84	I am looking to buy a GTS and have been researching tuning them. The standard turbo is the limiting factor, I have read elsewhere that you cant really run more than 0.9 bar without melting the turbo, so I would recommend a FMIC and some kind of turbo upgrade... Hope this helps!

24th April 2003, 12:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
mattb GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 1,416	need a steel head gasket to lower the compression ratio as that is a big limiting factor. Trouble is you loose off boost performance if your not careful.

24th April 2003, 01:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Matt_S GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Essex of course Posts: 553	Use the search function - this has been duscussed many times. Look in Engine Mods and Turbos forums aswell. Lots there. Do a search using my name if you like - Ive asked the same questions! Im gonna have to get a new turbo soon. Ive reached the max power I can acheive on std poopy turbo. I would say get a turbo sorted (min cost £400). Up the boost a bit, preferably on the rollers to check fuelling etc. AFM is no good for much above 350bhp. Std Fuel pump needs ditching when chasing 300bhp, then FMIC - get a decent one - good enough for at LEAST your minimum future power aims. Most Jap spec FMICs (HKS/Apexi/Blitz to name a few) are good for at least 400 - hopefully 450 bhp. Injectors are OK for a safe 370bhp. Engine is OK for about 350-370 I reckon, before it needs spitting. We'll see. I want the power but I dont want to split the lump. Management may be the way round it. Lookin into all options myself right now. Turbos, management, MHG required?, how Im gonna pay for it - the usual stuff This is obviously my opinion. Get a professional if you're not sure or confident. Enjoy the ride tho. Get a set of springs to help hang on in there.....

24th April 2003, 03:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Skip GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Norfolk Posts: 84	Apexi Induction and Blitz Nur spec are the first mods I intend to do!! Whats the induction noise like with the apexi filter? The standard one I drove yesterday was whispery quiet!! I want whoshy noises!!!

24th April 2003, 03:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
mattb GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 1,416	Sturm, Are there any pics of your GTSt anywhere as your avatar looks quite interesting? Matt

24th April 2003, 03:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
mattb GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 1,416	shame, nice car that one. Although yours doesn't sound that bad

25th April 2003, 10:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
H4D UU GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 45	I have a Garret TO4S for-sale. Anyone interested?

25th April 2003, 11:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Lee_Pendlebury GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: W.Sussex Posts: 1,348	T04 I might be interested. Can you let me know roughly how much you would be looking for, the condition and weather it would be good to put on my FD or not. Would it require me to also get a front mount intercooler to be able to feal with it? Cheers Lee Edit: I thought that was a PM, nevermind. Please respond with a private message.

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