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Old 30th July 2008, 01:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The Calsonic 32 was, and still is, awesome but 20 years of racing development means it can't be compared to contemporary equivalents.
True, but if anyone thinks that a 'Tuner' modified BNR32 built today is going to be almost as fast as a full-house NISMO 1990~1993 Gr.A car then they are very much mistaken.

The Gr.A car would post a quick lap time and keep doing it for hundreds of kilometres..........
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I doubt there is anyone on here that would NOT be interested to know the exact specs of the cars then.
Bit odd to think otherwise.

The slicks thing was commenting on why they was faster than their main opposition, the RS500s, and the main reason they would be faster than similar Time Attack cars.
Ie the main advantage was the Skylines could put the power down much earlier than all the opposition, which were RWD, is they literally had twice the contact patch for the power to go to the road.
And in Time Attack you cant run slicks so the problem is the same.

Read what I wrote as you want, but thats what I meant. And its simple fact.

I still find it hard to believe, knowing GrpA Homologation rules at the time, the car is so magical like you are making out. And I have seen a lot of works GrpA cars from the era up close, albeit not 32s.

Please though, show the world otherwise, we would all love to see the secrets im sure.
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I still find it hard to believe, knowing GrpA Homologation rules at the time, the car is so magical like you are making out. And I have seen a lot of works GrpA cars from the era up close, albeit not 32s.
"Magical" is your word - not mine.

I'm saying that they used thousands of non-standard components that were specifically developed and manufactured for the purpose. If you want to sum all that up by pointing at their tyres then I have to say you must have very little idea of what they were attached to.

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Please though, show the world otherwise, we would all love to see the secrets im sure.
And precisely how do you recommend I do that? You want me to post up selected snippets from the paperwork, so that you can decide whether it is "magical" or not? You want me to post photos of some of the components, so that you can appraise them?

How about you do your own research on the subject? You can start by paying £200 to JAF for a full set of the JA-137 N1 homologation papers.......
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The Group B revival is good, the Group C revival is the dogs wedding furniture, so when will the Group A revival come
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on the one hand, I'd love to have my hands on a huge .pdf file listing all details of the Group A R32s, but then I'd just cry a river because it would be near impossible to duplicate.

If I had that much money to fabricate a bespoke replica, it sure as hell would be the 2002 R34!!! Sex on wheels, that car is.
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So Basically 20 years on.

Is it fair to say there isn't much chance of replicating a group A car in performance and speed by joe public? And if I was a multi-millionaire and managed to get a group A car and turned up at a joe-public organised event it would still beat out all the latest joe-public has to offer. Effectively what I'm saying is that joe-public technology hasn't quite caught up to 20-year old race technology. We have probably surpassed 30 year old race tech.

Or is it fair to say that the R32 was such a huge leap forward it really was out in a class of its own and hence years ahead. Hence still competent car.

Or has technology ran out of steam a little and we are all waiting for the next big break through (electric cars with perfect low down weight distribution, massive torque and no gear losses).
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