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tokyogtr · 18th August 2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by beppi

Dear Tokyo GTR, do you think that Italian people and Italian magazine are all idiots ?
I don't think so. I am Italian, I love jap cars, I have ordered a GT-R in red (like you) and I import from Jap tabletennis material (my work).
I think that there are good and bad magazines and people in Italy in Japan and in all the world. I always read your posts because I think you are one of the best specialist in GT-R
Best Regards

mate, not trying to cause offence but i'm a former Ferrari (x2) owner and have to say that the Italian mags I used to get were very biased in their test reports. In fact I just came back from a holiday in Sardina a week ago and bought a car mag at the airport as it had the GT-R in there. They didn't slag it completely but they scored it very low compared to other european marques.

Just saying horses for courses. Just because one mag in italy does this does not mean all italians are the same buddy....

beppi · 19th August 2008, 06:19 AM

Ok, thank you very much for the answer. I know that some important italian mag prefer Italian cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Maserati) and at second place German cars but other italian mags are more careful also for jap cars. I hope you had good holidays in sardinia. I play tabletennis (first division) in Alghero (north sardinia) for 5 years. Very nice island but expensive...like Ferrari.

Armed English · 19th August 2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadid

Guys - lets get real. There was none of this "unfair" test business when the GTR spanked the Scuderia's time around the Top Gear track - I think it is obvious that the GTR punches way above its price tag and bloatedness - however it competes with some spectacular machines and on some days , on certain roads and with the vagaries of the hand built engine, you have to accept that the GTR will get beaten fair and square.

Will it make me change my mind about ordering.....hell no !

I have to disagree. The test is unfair. Imagine being the manufacturer of those high end Supercars. The modern day GT-R came very close to beating them in the performance department in there own back yard at a third of the price. I feel for them, I really do

Jadid · 19th August 2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Armed English

I have to disagree. The test is unfair. Imagine being the manufacturer of those high end Supercars. The modern day GT-R came very close to beating them in the performance department in there own back yard at a third of the price. I feel for them, I really do

mindlessoath · 19th August 2008, 11:02 PM

the test which was covered month ago :P was really unfair.

the driver is against nissan for some reasons (i forget).

but overall its not that unfair, those other cars are more expensve, have more horsepower and lighter weight than the gt-r. those cars are actually a bit better than the gt-r, but its great that the gt-r is number 11 in the list (number 10 not including wet tracks). so thats a great accomplishment.

Eric GTR · 20th August 2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mindlessoath

the test which was covered month ago :P was really unfair.

the driver is against nissan for some reasons (i forget).

but overall its not that unfair, those other cars are more expensve, have more horsepower and lighter weight than the gt-r. those cars are actually a bit better than the gt-r, but its great that the gt-r is number 11 in the list (number 10 not including wet tracks). so thats a great accomplishment.

as pointed out, you can hardly call it unfair, the gtr is chucked into the ring with the latest. most hi tech and best supercars that the 3 best sports car marques in the world can make, and it holds its own

not bad for a 4 door taxi with a boot

R33_GTS-t · 20th August 2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric GTR

not bad for a 4 door taxi with a boot

2 door.

tokyogtr · 20th August 2008, 11:05 PM

this he ment 4 seat...

Eric GTR · 21st August 2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tokyogtr

this he ment 4 seat...

yes indeady

Black edition 2 · 21st August 2008, 07:24 PM

I am amazed that no one mentioned a big difference in the test: all the three other cars were equipped with so called "sport tires", PS2 Cup and PZero Corsa. They say that only changing to this tires can gain you 8-9 seconds on Nordschleife.
I know that the RE070 are not quite normall summer tires, but they are very far away from being full blown semislicks like the others.

Oh, and in a european language, the pilot's name, Prost, means Dumb/stupid.

Godspd · 21st August 2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Black edition 2

I am amazed that no one mentioned a big difference in the test: all the three other cars were equipped with so called "sport tires", PS2 Cup and PZero Corsa. They say that only changing to this tires can gain you 8-9 seconds on Nordschleife.
I know that the RE070 are not quite normall summer tires, but they are very far away from being full blown semislicks like the others.

Oh, and in a european language, the pilot's name, Prost, means Dumb/stupid.

Very good point indeed.

Although I would have to agree with Prost on his comment about weight. None the less as others have said it is a huge achievement/compliment for Nissan/GTR to be compared with the top marques of supercars.

Far more fair comparison would be with the Spec-V.

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tokyogtr GTROC Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tokyo Posts: 1,171	this he ment 4 seat... __________________ My GTR SUCKS..... air.... then big shiny turbos force it into the engine.

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19th August 2008, 06:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
beppi GTR Register Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Margherita Ligure Posts: 19	Ok, thank you very much for the answer. I know that some important italian mag prefer Italian cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Maserati) and at second place German cars but other italian mags are more careful also for jap cars. I hope you had good holidays in sardinia. I play tabletennis (first division) in Alghero (north sardinia) for 5 years. Very nice island but expensive...like Ferrari.

19th August 2008, 11:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
mindlessoath GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: usa Posts: 603	the test which was covered month ago :P was really unfair. the driver is against nissan for some reasons (i forget). but overall its not that unfair, those other cars are more expensve, have more horsepower and lighter weight than the gt-r. those cars are actually a bit better than the gt-r, but its great that the gt-r is number 11 in the list (number 10 not including wet tracks). so thats a great accomplishment.

21st August 2008, 07:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
Black edition 2 GTR Register Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Duitsland Posts: 12	I am amazed that no one mentioned a big difference in the test: all the three other cars were equipped with so called "sport tires", PS2 Cup and PZero Corsa. They say that only changing to this tires can gain you 8-9 seconds on Nordschleife. I know that the RE070 are not quite normall summer tires, but they are very far away from being full blown semislicks like the others. Oh, and in a european language, the pilot's name, Prost, means Dumb/stupid.