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trondhla · 17th August 2008, 02:51 PM

An italian magazine har tested the GT-R against europes best, pictures here: SUPERCARS.NET - Community Forums

and the GT-R is rated absolutly last.
1. Scuderia 933
2. 2. LP560 895
3. GT2 860
4. GT-R 728

This is the first time I've seen the GT-R slowest on a racetrack. So maybe 7'29 doesn't mean anything after all

Scrappy · 17th August 2008, 03:38 PM

its amazing that the GTR is even tested against such company tbh mate. Look at the price difference though.. Id still be abit skeptical really as alot of people have so far tested the GTR with different results. Id give it abit of time.. Hey if all else fails then an exhaust change and a reflash is all thats needed and then we can wave goodbye to these others lol

Armed English · 17th August 2008, 03:41 PM

The GT-R is beaten by faster, lighter Supercars. I don't think that should be a surprise. What is a surprise is how close it comes to matching them

I think on the UK's crap and damp roads the GT-R will be more than a match for the GT2 and the prancing horse.

Anyway I'll be happy in my GT-R

What makes me say that is if you gave me the keys to all four and said. Pick one to own for 3 years I would take the GT-R.

R33_GTS-t · 17th August 2008, 03:44 PM

This test has been around for a month or so now.

SuzaFan · 17th August 2008, 05:10 PM

I saw that test about month ago...
Guys, those 3 cars are racing versions of the production supercars (scuderia - racing version of 430, GT2 - racing 911 Turbo and Lambo 560 - it's a bit redisigned and tuned original Lambo)
GTR is a car that has full options, electrical seats, 4 seats, Bose sound system and many many other options that make life convenient...
They say in that test that GT2 can adjust the seat only backward and forward (no up down, no leaning them...) and 430 scuderia is a car that doesn't have a radio on that test and has those cross racing seat belts (don't think it is very practical to use it few times a day), they are all 2 seaters...How can they even compare such almost racing cars and a GTR that can actually be used daily and is much more functional...They should have compared normal 911 Turbo, normal 430 and normal Lambo...But then, we know what the results would be like...
It was not a fair test I would say...

tomgtr · 17th August 2008, 05:39 PM

Agree fully. Maybe it would be fair to put thefuture spec V in this test. But still, Spec V will cost less than half from the other 3 in this test. It's a real honour the GT-R is so respected that it is put in test with such competitors!

tokyogtr · 17th August 2008, 11:46 PM

it's an italian mag. what do you expect?

Rising sun · 18th August 2008, 01:06 AM

If you don't know how to drive the car, you will make it look inferior. It's that's simple

Eric GTR · 18th August 2008, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armed English

The GT-R is beaten by faster, lighter Supercars. I don't think that should be a surprise. What is a surprise is how close it comes to matching them

I think on the UK's crap and damp roads the GT-R will be more than a match for the GT2 and the prancing horse.

Anyway I'll be happy in my GT-R

What makes me say that is if you gave me the keys to all four and said. Pick one to own for 3 years I would take the GT-R.

totally

real world driving, especially on crap bumpy and pot holed roads bears no reality to driving on a mirror smouth track, low down torques is as important as bhp, 4wd gives super stable driving on the 180 days of rain a year the uk gets, DSG means never being in the wrong gear and never getting caught napping. 4 seats and a large boot and 1/3 rd of the price just hows how amazing the GT-R is that it can get so close. And for those who like to play "ePeen Top Trumps" theres allways aftermarket tuning

and then theres the other factor, how often will you ever see one of these cars on the road? and if you do what are the odds the numpty even knows how to change gear properly?

turbobungle · 18th August 2008, 11:13 AM

Not really a fair test!

Nissan GTR, £52,900, 473bhp, 1740kg, 272bhp/tonne

Porsche GT2, £131,080, 523bhp, 1440kg, 363bhp/tonne

Lambo LP560/4, £147,330, 552bhp, 1500kg, 374bhp/tonne

Ferrari Scuderia, £172,625, 503bhp, 1350kg, 378bhp/tonne

So on average these cars are three times the price, have a 100bhp/tonne more and do not have 4 seats and a boot, so as someone else said, the fact that it was even tested with these cars is a testament to how good the car must be!

Jadid · 18th August 2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbobungle

Not really a fair test!

Nissan GTR, £52,900, 473bhp, 1740kg, 272bhp/tonne

Porsche GT2, £131,080, 523bhp, 1440kg, 363bhp/tonne

Lambo LP560/4, £147,330, 552bhp, 1500kg, 374bhp/tonne

Ferrari Scuderia, £172,625, 503bhp, 1350kg, 378bhp/tonne

So on average these cars are three times the price, have a 100bhp/tonne more and do not have 4 seats and a boot, so as someone else said, the fact that it was even tested with these cars is a testament to how good the car must be!

Guys - lets get real. There was none of this "unfair" test business when the GTR spanked the Scuderia's time around the Top Gear track - I think it is obvious that the GTR punches way above its price tag and bloatedness - however it competes with some spectacular machines and on some days , on certain roads and with the vagaries of the hand built engine, you have to accept that the GTR will get beaten fair and square.

Will it make me change my mind about ordering.....hell no !

Benji406V6Coupé · 18th August 2008, 01:32 PM

...agree with suzafan.

lets see how the Spec-V gets on with this sort of company!

in this test i believe the time posted wasnt that bad.

kismetcapitan · 18th August 2008, 01:49 PM

see my thread on street racing videos in Korea. It's like the entire Gumball field driven by college kids gathered together for some fast 'n' furious action - the list of exotics that run at these meets, well, nothing you can think of is missing. Driving skill makes a difference.

Benji406V6Coupé · 18th August 2008, 02:44 PM

...surely the cars in this test were driven by the same red leather slip-on clad 5ft journo? ...

beppi · 18th August 2008, 02:56 PM

Dear Tokyo GTR, do you think that Italian people and Italian magazine are all idiots ?
I don't think so. I am Italian, I love jap cars, I have ordered a GT-R in red (like you) and I import from Jap tabletennis material (my work).
I think that there are good and bad magazines and people in Italy in Japan and in all the world. I always read your posts because I think you are one of the best specialist in GT-R
Best Regards

17th August 2008, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
trondhla GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 444	Tested: 430 S - LP560 - GT2 - GT-R An italian magazine har tested the GT-R against europes best, pictures here: SUPERCARS.NET - Community Forums and the GT-R is rated absolutly last. 1. Scuderia 933 2. 2. LP560 895 3. GT2 860 4. GT-R 728 This is the first time I've seen the GT-R slowest on a racetrack. So maybe 7'29 doesn't mean anything after all

17th August 2008, 11:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
tokyogtr GTROC Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tokyo Posts: 1,088	it's an italian mag. what do you expect? __________________ My GTR SUCKS..... air.... then big shiny turbos force it into the engine.

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17th August 2008, 03:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scrappy GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 115	its amazing that the GTR is even tested against such company tbh mate. Look at the price difference though.. Id still be abit skeptical really as alot of people have so far tested the GTR with different results. Id give it abit of time.. Hey if all else fails then an exhaust change and a reflash is all thats needed and then we can wave goodbye to these others lol

17th August 2008, 03:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Armed English GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 142	The GT-R is beaten by faster, lighter Supercars. I don't think that should be a surprise. What is a surprise is how close it comes to matching them I think on the UK's crap and damp roads the GT-R will be more than a match for the GT2 and the prancing horse. Anyway I'll be happy in my GT-R What makes me say that is if you gave me the keys to all four and said. Pick one to own for 3 years I would take the GT-R.

17th August 2008, 03:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
R33_GTS-t GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: [544] days from disposing of Labour. BNFL are shit. One repossession, one (bank) window. Posts: 8,135	This test has been around for a month or so now.

17th August 2008, 05:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
SuzaFan GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 66	I saw that test about month ago... Guys, those 3 cars are racing versions of the production supercars (scuderia - racing version of 430, GT2 - racing 911 Turbo and Lambo 560 - it's a bit redisigned and tuned original Lambo) GTR is a car that has full options, electrical seats, 4 seats, Bose sound system and many many other options that make life convenient... They say in that test that GT2 can adjust the seat only backward and forward (no up down, no leaning them...) and 430 scuderia is a car that doesn't have a radio on that test and has those cross racing seat belts (don't think it is very practical to use it few times a day), they are all 2 seaters...How can they even compare such almost racing cars and a GTR that can actually be used daily and is much more functional...They should have compared normal 911 Turbo, normal 430 and normal Lambo...But then, we know what the results would be like... It was not a fair test I would say...

17th August 2008, 05:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
tomgtr GTROC Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 144	Agree fully. Maybe it would be fair to put thefuture spec V in this test. But still, Spec V will cost less than half from the other 3 in this test. It's a real honour the GT-R is so respected that it is put in test with such competitors!

18th August 2008, 01:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rising sun GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 93	If you don't know how to drive the car, you will make it look inferior. It's that's simple

18th August 2008, 11:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
turbobungle GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: kent / www.turbobungle.com Posts: 141	Not really a fair test! Nissan GTR, £52,900, 473bhp, 1740kg, 272bhp/tonne Porsche GT2, £131,080, 523bhp, 1440kg, 363bhp/tonne Lambo LP560/4, £147,330, 552bhp, 1500kg, 374bhp/tonne Ferrari Scuderia, £172,625, 503bhp, 1350kg, 378bhp/tonne So on average these cars are three times the price, have a 100bhp/tonne more and do not have 4 seats and a boot, so as someone else said, the fact that it was even tested with these cars is a testament to how good the car must be!

18th August 2008, 01:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Benji406V6Coupé GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 436	...agree with suzafan. lets see how the Spec-V gets on with this sort of company! in this test i believe the time posted wasnt that bad.

18th August 2008, 01:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
kismetcapitan GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seoul Korea Posts: 6,392	see my thread on street racing videos in Korea. It's like the entire Gumball field driven by college kids gathered together for some fast 'n' furious action - the list of exotics that run at these meets, well, nothing you can think of is missing. Driving skill makes a difference.

18th August 2008, 02:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Benji406V6Coupé GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 436	...surely the cars in this test were driven by the same red leather slip-on clad 5ft journo? ...

18th August 2008, 02:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
beppi GTR Register Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Margherita Ligure Posts: 19	Dear Tokyo GTR, do you think that Italian people and Italian magazine are all idiots ? I don't think so. I am Italian, I love jap cars, I have ordered a GT-R in red (like you) and I import from Jap tabletennis material (my work). I think that there are good and bad magazines and people in Italy in Japan and in all the world. I always read your posts because I think you are one of the best specialist in GT-R Best Regards