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Gez · 18th August 2008, 12:17 PM

Im am very very pi55ed off with my council. I am all for recycling but i today received an £80 fin for over filling my recyling bin. In the borough of hertsemere we have two wheelie bins one for general rubish and one for recyling ie food waste, grass clippings, brown card and wood. Then we have two boxes, one for cans and bottles and one for paper rubbish. Every week i sort the cr*ap out so everytrhing goes where it should but for the past two weeks i have had a little more than usual recycling waste due to decorating, being at home etc so there has been more to recycle than usual.
Now this is what pi55es me off the most, its bad enough that i pay over £2000 per anum in council tax but they have also made it clear that they 'MAKE' money from our recycling rubbish by extracting electricity and selling the plastic bottles etc to foreign countries who use them.....So why is it that despite me doing my bit and having loads of stuff to recylce i get a fookin fine?????? Absolute to55ers.....Not only are they making more money out of me by recycling more, they are also fining me for the b100dy privelage...

RANT OVER!!!!!!

anthonymcgrath · 18th August 2008, 01:25 PM

did they empty it and charge 80quid? If they left it tell em piss off your not paying it as they didn't do their job and its pure moneymaking and if they say you have to tell em you'll see em in court - I'm sure they'll not want to contest it over 80quid esp. as you pay as much c.tax as you do and comply with their stupid rules any other time.

Mookistar · 18th August 2008, 01:26 PM

if it's on your proprerty i'm sure you could argue it wasn't ready to be collected.

R33_GTS-t · 18th August 2008, 05:16 PM

Hang on. 'Over-filling' your recycling bin? What do they expect you to do with the excess then? You can't put it in the general waste bin because then you'd be fined for a crime against the environment. Do they expect you to keep the crap in your house?

I'd write in to the news.

CSB · 18th August 2008, 06:34 PM

yeh write in to the news, its not like the collectors are gonna get injured moving it

MacGTR · 18th August 2008, 07:23 PM

This is ridiculous. So the government wants us to recycle, but recycling too much gets penalizsed?! Someone needs their head rattling...

freakazoid3 · 18th August 2008, 07:24 PM

Sounds like they want to make more money while making money

What a load off b*ll, how do you overfill a trash bin? I would ask myself what they suggest you do with the "left overs"...

tonigmr2 · 19th August 2008, 09:43 AM

Did you overfill it with the correct materials?

If you did I suggest you ring up the environmental services for a chat, most of them are human and you will get way further than ranting. It might be you qualify for a larger container or they will waive it in this instance if you have a proper conversation with them.

If, however, you stuffed whatever trash was left in there, well you won't get much sympathy. Oh and councils ARE taking people to court over their £80 quid fines, so I don't suggest ignoring it.
T
p.s. do people realise that rubbish collection is around 3-5% or so of your council tax...

Spearmint · 19th August 2008, 10:02 AM

And folk wonder why fly tipping is on the up. Silly bastards and their silly empire building rules.

Stan · 19th August 2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spearmint

And folk wonder why fly tipping is on the up. Silly bastards and their silly empire building rules.

Couldn't agree more.

Fly tip it.
They'll have to collect it then. Tossers.

Honestly, you try your best & they want to screw you anyway. Makes my blood boil.

ru' · 19th August 2008, 11:19 AM

These laws are in place to prevent the UK getting fined by the EU for not reducing landfill waste by set targets.

The fact that they are fining the recycling bin is totally stupid; it's out of order (but understandable) for fines like this for landfill bins, but for recycling?

I'd say have a chat, as per above, if no joy then go to the press - they'd love a story like this.

L14M0 · 19th August 2008, 01:24 PM

Solve the problem, don't recycle, stick everything in the normal wheelie bin and by doing that

1) you won't get fined
2) they won't make money selling the stuff you recycle

tonigmr2 · 19th August 2008, 01:49 PM

1) If you fly tip you pay to clear it up. Now that DOES cost the council tax payer money.

2) As correctly pointed out above, councils are FORCED to recycle. They have targets, imposed by the EU, that must be met. TBH and good thing to, because guess what, we are running out of holes to dump it. So wake up boys and girls, it's not about empire building it's about we HAVE to do SOMETHING with it.

3) Making money from recyclables.

Get real. At most the council is hoping to recupe some of the money it has laid out on expensive recycling kit and ergo reduce your council tax liability.

4) In many areas dumping all your recyclables into your wheeled bin could result in a further fine, so be careful with that one.

T

Howsie · 19th August 2008, 03:33 PM

Nice post Tony!

Gez,

I've a question. Why didn't you just save the excess for next week's collection? That's what I've done on a couple of occasions.

The reason they state that the bins cannot be over filled is because stuff may fall out when it's being taken to the truck and that it may be too heavy for smelly people that collect your rubbish. Now the first point I agree with, but the second... come on.

Gez · 19th August 2008, 11:46 PM

Ok to reply to some questions.....

The bin was overfilled and they did collect it...I got a lette through the post with a pretty little picture lol....

I would have saved it till the next collection but hertsmere have the most stupid collection scheme....

week 1. General waste wheelie bin along with the cans and bottles box
week 2. Green wheelie bin with grass cuttings, wood, brown card food and the paper box.
If i wanted to wait till next collection it would have been two weeks and that old pizza would have collected maggots lol.

I am all for recycling but pls dont peanlise me for recylcling too much. Absolute to55ers.

18th August 2008, 12:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gez GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 2,416	Recycling Im am very very pi55ed off with my council. I am all for recycling but i today received an £80 fin for over filling my recyling bin. In the borough of hertsemere we have two wheelie bins one for general rubish and one for recyling ie food waste, grass clippings, brown card and wood. Then we have two boxes, one for cans and bottles and one for paper rubbish. Every week i sort the cr*ap out so everytrhing goes where it should but for the past two weeks i have had a little more than usual recycling waste due to decorating, being at home etc so there has been more to recycle than usual. Now this is what pi55es me off the most, its bad enough that i pay over £2000 per anum in council tax but they have also made it clear that they 'MAKE' money from our recycling rubbish by extracting electricity and selling the plastic bottles etc to foreign countries who use them.....So why is it that despite me doing my bit and having loads of stuff to recylce i get a fookin fine?????? Absolute to55ers.....Not only are they making more money out of me by recycling more, they are also fining me for the b100dy privelage... RANT OVER!!!!!!

18th August 2008, 01:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mookistar ADMINISTRATOR Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Living life 8min 50 secs at a time Posts: 10,403	if it's on your proprerty i'm sure you could argue it wasn't ready to be collected. __________________ FOR ALL GTR FORUM RELATED ISSUES CONTACT THE ADMIN TEAM 'MOOKISTAR' OR 'MOLEMAN' SKYLINE FAQ'S!

19th August 2008, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
tonigmr2 GTROC Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Herts Posts: 1,784	Did you overfill it with the correct materials? If you did I suggest you ring up the environmental services for a chat, most of them are human and you will get way further than ranting. It might be you qualify for a larger container or they will waive it in this instance if you have a proper conversation with them. If, however, you stuffed whatever trash was left in there, well you won't get much sympathy. Oh and councils ARE taking people to court over their £80 quid fines, so I don't suggest ignoring it. T p.s. do people realise that rubbish collection is around 3-5% or so of your council tax... __________________ GTR back in sight....

19th August 2008, 01:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
tonigmr2 GTROC Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Herts Posts: 1,784	1) If you fly tip you pay to clear it up. Now that DOES cost the council tax payer money. 2) As correctly pointed out above, councils are FORCED to recycle. They have targets, imposed by the EU, that must be met. TBH and good thing to, because guess what, we are running out of holes to dump it. So wake up boys and girls, it's not about empire building it's about we HAVE to do SOMETHING with it. 3) Making money from recyclables. Get real. At most the council is hoping to recupe some of the money it has laid out on expensive recycling kit and ergo reduce your council tax liability. 4) In many areas dumping all your recyclables into your wheeled bin could result in a further fine, so be careful with that one. T __________________ GTR back in sight....

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18th August 2008, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
anthonymcgrath GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Merseyside Posts: 1,213	did they empty it and charge 80quid? If they left it tell em piss off your not paying it as they didn't do their job and its pure moneymaking and if they say you have to tell em you'll see em in court - I'm sure they'll not want to contest it over 80quid esp. as you pay as much c.tax as you do and comply with their stupid rules any other time.

18th August 2008, 05:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
R33_GTS-t GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: [510] days from disposing of Labour. BNFL are shit. One repossession, one (bank) window. Posts: 8,241	Hang on. 'Over-filling' your recycling bin? What do they expect you to do with the excess then? You can't put it in the general waste bin because then you'd be fined for a crime against the environment. Do they expect you to keep the crap in your house? I'd write in to the news.

18th August 2008, 06:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
CSB GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Birmingham Posts: 508	yeh write in to the news, its not like the collectors are gonna get injured moving it

18th August 2008, 07:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
MacGTR GTR Register Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Princes Risborough Posts: 2,034	This is ridiculous. So the government wants us to recycle, but recycling too much gets penalizsed?! Someone needs their head rattling...

18th August 2008, 07:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
freakazoid3 GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny Belgium...right :) Posts: 846	Sounds like they want to make more money while making money What a load off b*ll, how do you overfill a trash bin? I would ask myself what they suggest you do with the "left overs"...

19th August 2008, 10:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Spearmint GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 799	And folk wonder why fly tipping is on the up. Silly bastards and their silly empire building rules.

19th August 2008, 11:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
ru' New Users Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Black R33 GTR V-Spec Posts: 2,002	These laws are in place to prevent the UK getting fined by the EU for not reducing landfill waste by set targets. The fact that they are fining the recycling bin is totally stupid; it's out of order (but understandable) for fines like this for landfill bins, but for recycling? I'd say have a chat, as per above, if no joy then go to the press - they'd love a story like this.

19th August 2008, 01:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
L14M0 GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North East Posts: 2,126	Solve the problem, don't recycle, stick everything in the normal wheelie bin and by doing that 1) you won't get fined 2) they won't make money selling the stuff you recycle

19th August 2008, 03:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
Howsie GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Surrey Posts: 6,997	Nice post Tony! Gez, I've a question. Why didn't you just save the excess for next week's collection? That's what I've done on a couple of occasions. The reason they state that the bins cannot be over filled is because stuff may fall out when it's being taken to the truck and that it may be too heavy for smelly people that collect your rubbish. Now the first point I agree with, but the second... come on.

19th August 2008, 11:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gez GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 2,416	Ok to reply to some questions..... The bin was overfilled and they did collect it...I got a lette through the post with a pretty little picture lol.... I would have saved it till the next collection but hertsmere have the most stupid collection scheme.... week 1. General waste wheelie bin along with the cans and bottles box week 2. Green wheelie bin with grass cuttings, wood, brown card food and the paper box. If i wanted to wait till next collection it would have been two weeks and that old pizza would have collected maggots lol. I am all for recycling but pls dont peanlise me for recylcling too much. Absolute to55ers.