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jamesbilluk · 24th August 2008, 10:35 PM

Hi all
Still unsure about how these LED's look on the GTR, Just wondering has anyone got a good picture from the front with the LED's on?

Thanks

James.

Robbie J · 25th August 2008, 01:23 AM

search? my car has them and there are a few good pics of it on here

Pic's of the bling Neon lights, dealer fit option

Rob in the US but home soon...

jonny R · 25th August 2008, 10:21 AM

how much did these cost you mate and where did you get them? middlehurst nissan want £800 for them as an extra.

jamesbilluk · 25th August 2008, 11:04 AM

Thanks Robbie, look good they do. Goig to enquire to my dealer when the cars in if they are an option

James

Eric GTR · 25th August 2008, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie J

search? my car has them and there are a few good pics of it on here

Pic's of the bling Neon lights, dealer fit option

Rob in the US but home soon...

looking at the position of them the uk police are gonna deam them to be front fog lights and nick people for using them, well they done me twice over a 3 month period, i dont even bother with them in fog now ....

charles charlie · 25th August 2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric GTR

looking at the position of them the uk police are gonna deam them to be front fog lights and nick people for using them, well they done me twice over a 3 month period, i dont even bother with them in fog now ....

Nothing wrong with daytime running lights.

Ask anyone driving a new Audi.....

Robbie J · 25th August 2008, 04:33 PM

£800 is a little more than I paid but not bad.....
R

Eric GTR · 25th August 2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by charles charlie

Nothing wrong with daytime running lights.

Ask anyone driving a new Audi.....

but there in the headlight position so would be deamed to be side lights, same as you used to get armys of old boxy volvos driving around with faded side lights

charles charlie · 25th August 2008, 10:03 PM

The Road Traffic Act 1989 makes no statement about "position" of lamps, be it fog or otherwise.

The Act defines...

Front fog lamp

A lamp used to improve the illumination of the road in front of a motor vehicle in conditions of seriously reduced visibility.

Running lamp

A lamp (not being a front position lamp, an end-outline marker lamp, headlamp or front fog lamp) used to make the presence of a moving motor vehicle readily visible from the front.

I personally would have little problem in defending any action brought by an overzealous copper on the grounds that these LED lights are anything other than running lamps due to their clearly inadequate ability to improve illumination in front of the vehicle!

charles charlie · 25th August 2008, 10:25 PM

My bad...

"Front fog lamps should be fitted low on the front of the motor vehicle, normally below the height of the headlamps, but not more than 1,200 mm from the ground"

Still, the low level of brightness from these LEDs would have me believe they'd be seen as running lights rather than fogs.

Eric GTR · 26th August 2008, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charles charlie

My bad...

"Front fog lamps should be fitted low on the front of the motor vehicle, normally below the height of the headlamps, but not more than 1,200 mm from the ground"

Still, the low level of brightness from these LEDs would have me believe they'd be seen as running lights rather than fogs.

I dont see it as a problem more lights means your more visible, but in my experience most old bill in the uk have a bee in there bonnet about them and 800 squid is alot to spend on something i just know i will get pinched for using, especially driving a ninja turbo nutter car like the GT-R.

Robbie J · 27th August 2008, 07:20 PM

they are quite good at low speed giving a broader spread of light

they passed a ESVA while on the car so it must be legal

Rob

Scrappy · 27th August 2008, 10:31 PM

thing is guys is that the audi's have them so i cant see it being a problem tbh

Eric GTR · 28th August 2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy

thing is guys is that the audi's have them so i cant see it being a problem tbh

the Audi's are in the headlights so its easy to argue that they are the same as side lights which are legal to use 24/7, the GTRs are in or very close to the fog light position, its an offence in the UK to use fog lights at any time other than in fog

As most UK police are vexatious job worths who now have performance targets for nicking motorists and on the whole hate people who driver anything faster than a micra especially flash sports cars you are opening yourself up for a tug imo by using them. Dont forget this is the same police force that was perverting some ancient telegraph law to nick people for using speed detectors (until someone overturned it in the courts).

Im not saying dont get them, thats a personal thing, just in my experience in the UK as it is you could be opening yourself up for a ticket.

Scrappy · 28th August 2008, 06:41 AM

totally see your point Eric and agree entirely. Surely if the power hungry, ticket writing copper gets too nasty you could always switch your actual fog lamps on in the headlights whilst showing him the drivers manual ie..fog light locations and switches..that should silence the little rascal.

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jamesbilluk GTROC Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: R34 GTR.. Kidderminster / Worcester Posts: 1,986	Hyper LED's question Hi all Still unsure about how these LED's look on the GTR, Just wondering has anyone got a good picture from the front with the LED's on? Thanks James. __________________ ----R34 now sold---- ----M3 CSL now here, what a noise!!----

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jamesbilluk GTROC Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: R34 GTR.. Kidderminster / Worcester Posts: 1,986	Thanks Robbie, look good they do. Goig to enquire to my dealer when the cars in if they are an option James __________________ ----R34 now sold---- ----M3 CSL now here, what a noise!!----

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25th August 2008, 01:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Robbie J GTROC Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: london Posts: 1,076	search? my car has them and there are a few good pics of it on here Pic's of the bling Neon lights, dealer fit option Rob in the US but home soon...

25th August 2008, 10:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
jonny R GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: crawley Posts: 10	how much did these cost you mate and where did you get them? middlehurst nissan want £800 for them as an extra.

25th August 2008, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robbie J GTROC Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: london Posts: 1,076	£800 is a little more than I paid but not bad..... R

25th August 2008, 10:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
charles charlie GTR Register Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: North West Posts: 459	The Road Traffic Act 1989 makes no statement about "position" of lamps, be it fog or otherwise. The Act defines... Front fog lamp A lamp used to improve the illumination of the road in front of a motor vehicle in conditions of seriously reduced visibility. Running lamp A lamp (not being a front position lamp, an end-outline marker lamp, headlamp or front fog lamp) used to make the presence of a moving motor vehicle readily visible from the front. I personally would have little problem in defending any action brought by an overzealous copper on the grounds that these LED lights are anything other than running lamps due to their clearly inadequate ability to improve illumination in front of the vehicle!

25th August 2008, 10:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
charles charlie GTR Register Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: North West Posts: 459	My bad... "Front fog lamps should be fitted low on the front of the motor vehicle, normally below the height of the headlamps, but not more than 1,200 mm from the ground" Still, the low level of brightness from these LEDs would have me believe they'd be seen as running lights rather than fogs.

27th August 2008, 07:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Robbie J GTROC Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: london Posts: 1,076	they are quite good at low speed giving a broader spread of light they passed a ESVA while on the car so it must be legal Rob

27th August 2008, 10:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Scrappy GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 119	thing is guys is that the audi's have them so i cant see it being a problem tbh

28th August 2008, 06:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
Scrappy GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 119	totally see your point Eric and agree entirely. Surely if the power hungry, ticket writing copper gets too nasty you could always switch your actual fog lamps on in the headlights whilst showing him the drivers manual ie..fog light locations and switches..that should silence the little rascal.