Whats the point in a public fourm ?????

[jim-lm]

I don't say alot on here and keep my self to my self.

But why the hell as glen-gtr been banned for asking what the final out come of the engine failure was.

Now he's not asking who built it even thought there are pages apon pages of it on the for sale section so not hard to work out really yet thats plain for everyone to see.

We are not stupid so why get treated like it here.

This is a public fourm but you can't post if you have an opinion.

There is just too many key board warriors with a ban and lock options.
Which i'm sure will happen here.

This fourm has gone so down hill since i've joined, And you can only post on here if it doesn't rock the boat

Rob at rips is one the most talented engine builder for the rb engines i have ever seen yet everyone shoots him down and say he's full of shit.

Yet he doesn't make stupid mistakes like x-tuner from this country, yet he's the shit one i think not.

It's such a shame the way this fourm has gone

[gtrlux]

jim

Please come down and take a few notes:
1) This is indeed a public forum, but it is not a charity club run by billionaires who got bored with counting gold barrels. The forum is run and is kept to geather by great efforts form the owner and by many volunteers. Decisions are sometimes hard to take and sometimes wrong choosen, but I can garantee you that every one allways trys to do the best for the forum and the members.

2) The forum has 10 times more traffic then a few years back, crap seems to come from the gutter on 1 seconde basis now, so the reason this forum hasn't gone down hill is because every one is given the best effort.

3) Next time please write a PM to a mod. about your issues, every one is invited to share thoughts, critics ex . .with us, but don't blow the horn first, because what will you win with this thread? . . . .nothing!

Comon sense and adult discussions thrue the PM option do miracles

Please other members and jim, don't open a new thread about the issue again, we are discussion with jim on this .

Thanks

Chris

[Blow Dog]

I'm sure Chris won't take offense, but I'm re-opening this thread.
Let us know what you think and I'll tell you the reasons for things happening.

[L14M0]

Whats the point in a public fourm you ask, so we can see arguements like this unfold

In all seriousness I would say a the point in a forum is to share knowledge about a chosen subject, yes there are alot of arguements on the way but on the whole a forum is a very good idea.

[kismetcapitan]

I just want to know what was the mistake made by the tuner. Everyone's human - even my OCD builder made two errors - overtorquing an idler bolt, and forgetting an oil seal in my oil filter relocator sandwich plate (creating a slow oil leak). Not to mention snapping my camshaft, because he likes to take the cams in and out 4~5 times minimum to be sure, and then sure again about cam clearances.

A failure that catastrophic on that build - I really, REALLY REALLY want to know what went wrong. No need to name names, just some detailed information in terms of the technical aspect of the engine failure that owners and tuners alike can add to their catalog of information, and make sure it never happens again.

It's for that same reason I've been pretty vociferous about my idler bolt failure. I hadn't heard of it before, but apparently it's been happening, and it's a very easy thing to overlook....and something that needs to be done correctly. A $1 new steel grade 10.9 bolt is cheap and easy insurance, and I hope everyone learns from my misfortune.

So again....(and please do not ban me!)...what went wrong with 1346hp's engine? What was the error during the build? I do believe it's a reasonable thing to ask, and furthermore, something we all should know.

God forbid this happens to another one of our engines, because we didn't know. And because one of us had had that experience, and knows why and what mistakes to remember to avoid, it'd be a bleeding shame if the same thing happened to another RB26 build.

[jim-lm]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

I'm sure Chris won't take offense, but I'm re-opening this thread.
Let us know what you think and I'll tell you the reasons for things happening.

Hi cem.

This is what i pm'd gtrlux which i was trying to get across, I don't care about the engine just the way people who visit this forum are treated like.

Because with out us it would be a lonely place.


Ok so i'll be an adult as i was being a child i take it on my post.
I'm not saying this forum is crap, my point is you can see who built the engine in the for sale section for every one to see so why is it so hush hush?

All glen asked was why did it fail after all the questions and stuff flying about.
He even said he didn't care who built it and ****ed it.

So why ban him when he brings so much to this forum.

What has he done different to my post, So why not just lock it and warn him like you done for me and gav.

I know this isn't ****ing rome 400bc no one said it was.
It was a simple question asked in an "ADULT" way
and you just ban them.

So is that an "ADULT" responce just ban them?

cheers
jim

[Mookistar]

Did nobody read 1346's request to have the thread locked?

He will explain everything when he's ready

mook

[SmigzyGTR]

I think there are a few points to consider here.

Firstly there are people wanting to discuss the failure of the engine, and not who is at fault, which i think is fair enough as 99% of us here, learn something new everytime we long on.

Secondly, others are wanting to discuss tuner X and the service provided to the customer, which the OP was not inclined to disclose and the mods have to respect his decision and try to moderate in line with that, rather than let it turn into a tuner flame war.

Thirdly, the banning of people for repeat offences after infractions have already been served.

[moleman]

Jim,

Glen twice re-opened a thread that was closed at the request of the thread starter.

You mention being treated like you're stupid. I'm afraid you've got to be monumentally stupid to re-open a thread after being warned not to.



Smigzy,

The ONLY point to consider is that the thread starter does not want it discussed further.

That should be enough.

[Blow Dog]

Moving this thread to Non-Skyline

[kismetcapitan]

And GT-R Glenn has been what I think is an upstanding, knowledgable member of the forum. There's no question - I want to know, just as he does, as to what happened. I've got a personal stake in this - my engine is in pieces, being reassembled as we speak, and I would absolutely love to be able to call my builder and say "take care not to forget such-and-such"...he probably won't, but like it was said, everyone's human.

I have WAY too much time and money sunk into my build that is coming to completion, and I think it's fair to leave no stone unturned and to have some peace of mind. During my run-in, I had a bit more background noise from my engine than was usual, like something was rattling around independent of rpm. Please give me some peace of mind...

[kismetcapitan]

well, if anyone else knows what the fault is, please post, or at least I beg you, send me a PM. I visit my builder tomorrow and I want to insure everything, EVERYTHING, is spot on.

[RSVFOUR]

Trouble is very often people change the subject of a thread , not always deliberately but they do change it , and then after a couple of pages think that its their thread and that their points are what count.
If the original thread starter wants his discussion closed surely thats it.

[gtrlux]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

I'm sure Chris won't take offense, but I'm re-opening this thread.
Let us know what you think and I'll tell you the reasons for things happening.

No probs Cem, I locked the threads as at the moment they where posted, the other moderators wher not online in order to contribute informations about the entire issue.
Now that the heads are cooled down , we can discuss usefull.
Jim no offend, I not said your are childish, but you have to understand that if you start such a thread, 100 other peeps want to ventilate their frustration and therefore theses threads go down in to the gutter . . . knowing that outcome, makes private messaging the best solution to problems.

Also for future note, threads not get locked because the mods. abuse to do so, we try to keep the community running, it's more complicated then A versus B.

Regards

Chris

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by gtrlux

crap seems to come from the gutter on 1 seconde basis now

I don't post that often, do I?