Aluminum Drive / Prop Shaft - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

DarkChild · 21st September 2008, 10:28 PM

Would like to know more about Aluminum Drive/Prop Shaft.
How are these compared to the Carbon ones?
Anyone with any experiences?
I came across The Driveshaft Shop and they have aluminum ones for sale and I think they are a fraction of the price of a Carbon one. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Since we are on the topic of prop shafts, those who have Carbon Prop shafts, are they noisy? Would love to hear from those who are running them on the street with 500+whp and listen to experiences.

sloathy · 22nd September 2008, 11:26 AM

I know a friend of mine bought an alli prop and needed to get it balanced although it was supposed to have been from the factory. I thinks its that they are only run up to 60mph at the factory and at that speed was prob okay.

Stachi · 22nd September 2008, 01:43 PM

Would be interesting to me how the ends are fixed on the Ali Propshaft. I think welded and maybe threaded..
I've once seen a carbon fibre propshaft and it had GKN cardan joints from Germany.. which kinda impressed me.

Marc

DarkChild · 23rd September 2008, 02:18 AM

sloathy,
Which company was this aluminum prop shaft purchased from?

Stachi,
No idea. Would really like to know too.

Anyone with any experiences at all? What about experiences with a carbon prop shaft on a street car?

Piggaz · 23rd September 2008, 06:15 AM

^^ will be able to get back to you about the carcbon shaft VERY soon. Just waiting delivery

DarkChild · 23rd September 2008, 06:40 AM

Piggaz,
Nice. Where did you get yours from?

Piggaz · 23rd September 2008, 06:46 AM

ACPT USA

However 13 of us on Skylinesaustralia.com did a group buy.

They are the same shafts that Greddy/Trust sell. Rated for 1000 HP and 350 Km/h.

Chris Wilson · 25th September 2008, 12:22 PM

A lot of alloy and carbon props have the end forgings glued in. Some racing bodies insist on mechanical retention, so they add 3 or 4 pop rivets to meet the letter, if not the spirit of the regulations

Glueing, done correctly, is fine, there being some brilliant adhesives available these days. A lot of commonly fitted two piece aftermarket wheel rims are glued together...

sloathy · 25th September 2008, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkChild

sloathy,
Which company was this aluminum prop shaft purchased from?

Stachi,
No idea. Would really like to know too.

Anyone with any experiences at all? What about experiences with a carbon prop shaft on a street car?

It was a place called the prop shaft shop based in the states, if googled Im told it will come up. Think it came in at about 400 gbp

sloathy · 25th September 2008, 05:06 PM

Forget that, it was the exact same one you have attached on your first post

The Enoch · 20th November 2008, 09:07 PM

This is standing under the aluminium driveshaft product on Driveshaft shops website:

"The aluminum shaft has many advantages over the carbon steel shafts that most people are not aware of. The most obvious being the fact that it is 1/3 less weight, but the other thing that makes it attractive is that its resonant frequency properties are much higher. What this means to you is that a steel shaft may amplify a vibration where an aluminum one will dampen a vibration. The other thing is that an aluminum shaft torsionaly twists 19 degrees and a steel shaft only twist 5 degrees. What this means to a hot rod is the shaft will have a more dampened effect taking the shock load out of the drivetrain, making it more fluid feeling. Shafts can be made to handle power from mild to wild."

DarkChild · 20th November 2008, 09:22 PM

Duh, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to read what they had on their website. How silly of me. (in a sarcastic tone)

On a more serious note, I've already bitten the bullet and ordered an ACPT CF Prop shaft. Just awaiting delivery.

21st September 2008, 10:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
DarkChild GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 312	Aluminum Drive / Prop Shaft Would like to know more about Aluminum Drive/Prop Shaft. How are these compared to the Carbon ones? Anyone with any experiences? I came across The Driveshaft Shop and they have aluminum ones for sale and I think they are a fraction of the price of a Carbon one. Correct me if I'm wrong. Since we are on the topic of prop shafts, those who have Carbon Prop shafts, are they noisy? Would love to hear from those who are running them on the street with 500+whp and listen to experiences.

22nd September 2008, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stachi GTROC Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Near Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 785	Would be interesting to me how the ends are fixed on the Ali Propshaft. I think welded and maybe threaded.. I've once seen a carbon fibre propshaft and it had GKN cardan joints from Germany.. which kinda impressed me. Marc __________________ ---

20th November 2008, 09:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
The Enoch New Users Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	Aluminium driveshaft This is standing under the aluminium driveshaft product on Driveshaft shops website: "The aluminum shaft has many advantages over the carbon steel shafts that most people are not aware of. The most obvious being the fact that it is 1/3 less weight, but the other thing that makes it attractive is that its resonant frequency properties are much higher. What this means to you is that a steel shaft may amplify a vibration where an aluminum one will dampen a vibration. The other thing is that an aluminum shaft torsionaly twists 19 degrees and a steel shaft only twist 5 degrees. What this means to a hot rod is the shaft will have a more dampened effect taking the shock load out of the drivetrain, making it more fluid feeling. Shafts can be made to handle power from mild to wild."

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22nd September 2008, 11:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
sloathy GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: HERTFORDSHIRE Posts: 477	I know a friend of mine bought an alli prop and needed to get it balanced although it was supposed to have been from the factory. I thinks its that they are only run up to 60mph at the factory and at that speed was prob okay.

23rd September 2008, 02:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
DarkChild GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 312	sloathy, Which company was this aluminum prop shaft purchased from? Stachi, No idea. Would really like to know too. Anyone with any experiences at all? What about experiences with a carbon prop shaft on a street car?

23rd September 2008, 06:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Piggaz GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 748	^^ will be able to get back to you about the carcbon shaft VERY soon. Just waiting delivery

23rd September 2008, 06:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
DarkChild GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 312	Piggaz, Nice. Where did you get yours from?

23rd September 2008, 06:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Piggaz GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 748	ACPT USA However 13 of us on Skylinesaustralia.com did a group buy. They are the same shafts that Greddy/Trust sell. Rated for 1000 HP and 350 Km/h.

25th September 2008, 12:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chris Wilson GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1,490	A lot of alloy and carbon props have the end forgings glued in. Some racing bodies insist on mechanical retention, so they add 3 or 4 pop rivets to meet the letter, if not the spirit of the regulations Glueing, done correctly, is fine, there being some brilliant adhesives available these days. A lot of commonly fitted two piece aftermarket wheel rims are glued together...

25th September 2008, 05:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
sloathy GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: HERTFORDSHIRE Posts: 477	Forget that, it was the exact same one you have attached on your first post

20th November 2008, 09:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
DarkChild GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 312	Duh, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to read what they had on their website. How silly of me. (in a sarcastic tone) On a more serious note, I've already bitten the bullet and ordered an ACPT CF Prop shaft. Just awaiting delivery.