Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating at 'Ring

[doggiehowser]

Hey guys...
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Porsche did the testing. They are an established racing company. Of course, their methods are objective and impartial and beyond question.
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[GTRJack]

Is this sad or funny?! I am confused....

[Fuggles]

Totally agree with Porsche here. After all they are German and should know ther German roads better than any 'driving on the left' kinda people. Not only that Porsche are famous for testing at the Ring and regularly do it so they must be better at it than anyone else. Obviously the fact the other car had things in the wrong place - engine at the front, gearbox under the seat - is something any well respecting German driver with countless years experience of driving a rear engined car could get used to even before he's had time to chomp his way though his weiner schnitzel. And if that wasn't enough; that video of the car, you know the in car footage? Well it was filmed on a Japanese camcorder too! So Sony must have been in on the deal the while time!

[doggiehowser]

I vaguely recall Porsche themselves used a much grippier tire in one of their 'Ring runs years ago and it was found out, so they later provided the grippier tire as a factory option to get around the problem.

I know I didn't dream this up.

[WoREoD]

I first read this at work and giggled about it on and off all the way home......... they must be desperate to find out what's suddenly happened to them.......

Now I'm sure the Porsche driver wouldn't have driven deliberately slowly (would he?) but the GT-R is a very different car and requires a different driving approach - not something you pick up in a few laps I think.

Perhaps they should stop worrying about beating the time but more about reducing their prices - tee-hee!!

[WoREoD]

Oh, and a p.s. Given their car must have been an import, I hope they remembered to get the speed limiter turned off - tee-hee again......

[axolotl]

Originally Posted by trondhla

Did Top Gear cheat too when they managed 1'19,7?

yes maybe i was in on it too, that's how I got the time exactly right in the sweepstake even before top gear tested the car

[andreasgtr]

let's wait for a decent test.
A friend of mine is workng at audi and they too have a GTR to test around. So the rivals just check out each other and try to learn from each other.
I fin dit amusing that porsche was shocked so badly that they bought a GTR to check it out.
I think you can cut some % off the porsche time and add some % on the nissan time and you get the right time.

[WoREoD]

On a more serious note then my last posts I must admit I would like to see some times from Dirk Schoysman (sorry if I've spelt that wrong). He was supposed to be testing with Suzuki-san so a comparison would be good to see..........

[moleman]

...I've spoken to him...blood from a stone, believe me.

lol

[neilstafford]

not bitter and twisted at all then, those porsche chaps

[Zed Ed]

Originally Posted by neilstafford

not bitter and twisted at all then, those porsche chaps

I'm not surprised they are bitter.

Porker would have been one of my options if GTR hadn't happened by!

I believe it is faster than 911T etc, but given it costs only 50k, I couldn't care if it is actually a bit slower round the Ring than quoted.

Some of the Ring GTRs did look like they were running a little rich though.

[baphi]

and another video evidence

I lost count of them ...

CAR's performance car of the year -- Time Trials

I must be the tyres again ... or the wind ... or ... the sound system ... !?

[Blow Dog]

OK guys, putting aside loyalty inspired prejudices (which always provoke frustratingly blinkered points of view), I think the above article probably did come from Porsche, lately they've been making quite a few controversial public statements of late (Porsche v Ken Livingstone anyone??).

For the GTR to only just break the 8min mark on the ring is a fairly substantial claim to make and I'm not inclined to believe it. As somebody has already said, other publications have tested this car against the clock and it's always blown away the competition. There have been chasms between times when tested against other rivals, so frankly, if Porsche are getting shite times then chances are they need to get someone other than the mechanic to do official Porsche sanctioned lap times!!

However, Nissan are known for being secretive and almost sneaky. I wouldn't run it past them to take advantage of any given situation. Lightened? Different tyres? Increased boost? I remember when I was at the N24 race with a few friends and there was a Nissan Skyline GTR Nur there at the ring - rumours abound that it was there to improve its fabled Ring time. When we approached the cars, we were literally shoo'd away and shunned from getting close to the vehicle. They were especially secretive about what was in the boot. So no, I wouldn't run it past them.

[skyline69_uk]

Originally Posted by baphi

and another video evidence

I lost count of them ...

CAR's performance car of the year -- Time Trials

I must be the tyres again ... or the wind ... or ... the sound system ... !?

Great vid, once again the race drivers love the car on the track - apart from that Italian bloke who can't handle 4WD.