Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating at 'Ring

[Jm-Imports]

Originally Posted by gtrlux

Nissan will just buy 60% of the assets from Porsche and own them . .lol

then they will build fasters porsches

[thb_da_one]

Nissan is coming really strong all around the world, I wonder where Nissan will be in 5 yrs... No.3 maybe

[Fuggles]

If you discount the contribution Nissan made to Renault's bottom line then last year Renault would have made a loss without the income from Nissan. Makes you think.......

[mindlessoath]

Originally Posted by Scott

Are you hinting insider info here Iain??

If so I'd refer you back to one of your previous comments:




Good luck though.

Well, regardless This car was already proven stock. adenau has it in the showroom.

[kismetcapitan]

Originally Posted by gtrlux

Nissan will just buy 60% of the assets from Porsche and own them . .lol

dunno about that, Porsche bought Volkswagen, it's usually the specialty sports car companies that get bought by the big car-for-the-masses companies...Fiat/Ferrari, Ford/Aston, Audi/Lamborghini, etc...

It costs serious money to make a sports car, especially in limited numbers. I doubt Ferrari earns much money on each car they sell, and any halo car is generally sold at a loss (a Ferrari Enzo RETAILED at $600,000, I don't think that car costs peanuts to make), and the Bugatti Veyron is well-documented to cost well more than $1.5 million to make.

Yet somehow Porsche manages to have astonishing profit margins on every car they sell. Makes you wonder

[peterpeter]

you guys should see some of the shite being spouted on Pistonheads at the moment.
There are no less than 4 threads about the GTR and lap times etc going on simultaneously.

The amount of what seems like hatred and suspicion displayed by some posters towards the GTR is borderline scary.

Its cool that we are getting what seems to be one of the most controversial cars ever!!

What most of them dont seem to be able to get into their truly thick skulls is that the GTR carries speed into corners so much better than similar cars in its class. They are obsessed with the possibility the car was tuned, has more power. Power has a lot less to do with the GTR times compared to the awesome handling.

Which to me shows that many of them have never driven a car on track before so wouldnt have a clue about how to get quick lap times.

Its amazing how many of them seem to be ignoring the countless reviews and its as if some of them believe that there is a huge conspiracy and that all the test cars presumably all the race academy cars are tweaked!
Where it will all end who knows., but they are whipping themselves up into a right state.

Anyway I cant wait to get the car out on track and kick some rear as that usually shuts people up pretty quickly.

[Haywire]

Apart from the apparent badge snobbery which is unfortunately clearly evident, the biggest question mark raised by GTR detractors is the WEIGHT. Everyone knows the GTR is anything but light and in most peoples experience, including my own, weight kills everything. People cannot accept that with circa 480hp and 1700kg plus that this car can do what it does. Even as a pre-order customer I do have my doubts, despite my trip round Silverstone. The DCT, AWD and weight distribution all positively contribute but having looked at this months EVO I have some difficulty understanding how the GTR can get within 5-6 seconds (over 13 odd miles) of the Zonda F, Carrera GT, Enzo and MC12.

Whether it can or not, I cant wait for mine.

[ru']

It's also the power curve which is pretty impressive; very flat/high torque across the rev range. This is more telling then just the peak bhp figure.

[Zed Ed]

If I ever get my GTR to the Ring, I expect it will take me about 20 minutes to get round.

That will be because I can't drive it properly.

[Rostampoor]

Originally Posted by Zed Ed

If I ever get my GTR to the Ring, I expect it will take me about 20 minutes to get round.

That will be because I can't drive it properly.

That's a very good point here.

[(00\skyline/00)]

Lots of different road test have already proven that the GT-R is much faster than the Porsche GT2. Check out this Video. All the cars are standard and the Porsche still lost.

CAR's performance car of the year -- Time Trials- Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnmpI...th-gear-video/

They just cant take it that the GTR is faster.

[stealth]

Gtr costs so much less and Porsche and other over priced super car companies dont like it " No way for 50 K " ! Up yours From Nissan

[gtrlux]

Originally Posted by kismetcapitan

Yet somehow Porsche manages to have astonishing profit margins on every car they sell. Makes you wonder

5% of Porsche income is from the cars sale, 95% comes from different sources. (Porsche frenchize-motorsports investement ex . . .)

I will try to find that quote, was in a german mag.

[Aerodramatics]

Originally Posted by Zed Ed

If I ever get my GTR to the Ring, I expect it will take me about 20 minutes to get round.

That will be because I can't drive it properly.

I'd reckon we could all do a sub ten minute lap with no use of talent at all. Steady through the corners and a bit of juice on the straights, brake & gear in good time for each bend, no worries...

[Zed Ed]

Originally Posted by Aerodramatics

I'd reckon we could all do a sub ten minute lap with no use of talent at all. Steady through the corners and a bit of juice on the straights, brake & gear in good time for each bend, no worries...

you might change your mind if you had witnessed the performance of the 6th September a.m. Race Academy Titanium team.

Luckiest man on the planet is Davros, who has never had to give me a test drive.