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Daggie · 20th October 2008, 06:00 PM

Admin: This has been edited by request from Nissan GB. Publication of this article was not distributed with permission and represents a breech of trust.

Andy_ran · 20th October 2008, 06:26 PM

that does read as not our problem. I think it's like any car you modifiy from new, warranty will be honoured unless your mods caused the components to fail

Daggie · 21st October 2008, 08:14 AM

I did not know that mail was not for publication, because other posts on this forum on behalf of Nissan. (Nissan Motorline or something like that) Only difference was that mine came directly from Nissan Europe. As they stated in their message, not everything has been decided yet, so ignore my post should you have read it.

I will respect Nissan's decision and would like to publicly appoligize for posting the message. I did not know it was confidential.

Zed Ed · 21st October 2008, 10:17 AM

failure with vdc off = no warranty

Not marketed as 0-60 or qtr mile machine, this is down to magazines

issue brewing on Internet, related to abused cars

Stachi · 21st October 2008, 10:34 AM

^^ So nothing new..

Marc

obzi · 21st October 2008, 10:56 AM

HA HA!!!! I GOT THEM!!!!! (I think)

have a look on the official website right now and you'll find this page, it's live as i write this.

Nissan GT-R Media Press Release Detail Page

Have a read and see for yourself that they ARE marketing the GTR with a 0-62 of 3.5seconds.

Reads:
In stark performance terms, 62 mph from a standing start appears in around 3.5 seconds, while its potential top speed is 195 mph (provisional figure). But it is the GT-R's astonishing ground covering capabilities that mark out the new Nissan, ably demonstrated by a 7m 38s lap of the demanding Nordschleife (Nürburgring), one of the fastest times ever recorded by a production car and achieved in less than favourable conditions.

The words 'provisional' is in there but i'd like to see that go to court especially as the word provisional is after the 195mph.

Also, can 3.5 seconds be classed as 'around' 4 seconds? (0-62 without launch control)

GT-Racer · 21st October 2008, 11:51 AM

To quote, "In stark performance terms, 62 mph from a standing start appears in around 3.5 seconds, while its potential top speed is 195 mph (provisional figure). But it is the GT-R's astonishing ground covering capabilities that mark out the new Nissan, ably demonstrated by a 7m 38s lap of the demanding Nordschleife (Nürburgring), one of the fastest times ever recorded by a production car and achieved in less than favourable conditions."

guyblue10 · 21st October 2008, 11:52 AM

close but no cigar....

Read the last line

* All specification details relate to the Japanese domestic version of the Nissan GT-R and may not be consistent with final European figures. Final European GT-R technical specifications will be confirmed closer to start of sales.

Nice try....

GT-Racer · 21st October 2008, 11:53 AM

That was an official press-release, so I'll be holding Nissan to that claim.

GT-Racer · 21st October 2008, 11:55 AM

I'd argue that without releasing the UK specification before contracts are signed that Nissan are treading on very dodgy legal ground here. Especially if there are significant changes over the Jap spec.

Zed Ed · 21st October 2008, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-Racer

I'd argue that without releasing the UK specification before contracts are signed that Nissan are treading on very dodgy legal ground here. Especially if there are significant changes over the Jap spec.

Just let them try it

Zed Ed · 21st October 2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-Racer

I'd argue that without releasing the UK specification before contracts are signed that Nissan are treading on very dodgy legal ground here. Especially if there are significant changes over the Jap spec.

Just let them try it

Zed Ed · 21st October 2008, 12:34 PM

bloody iphone

Daggie · 21st October 2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed Ed

failure with vdc off = no warranty

That's not correct.
Failure (to the parts that are related to VDC) if VDC has ever been off, whilst driving = no warranty.

That means if I put VDC off for a trackday and the something brakes 2 months later (when driving with VDC on), then my warranty is void.
I wouldn't have a problem with that, if they hadn't put a button on the dashboard that puts VDC off. Any passenger/valet/idiot/... can switch it off, and thus voiding my warranty.

I find it very strange how they can legally defend that.
I dubbelchecked with my dealer to see if i understood the message correctly, but haven't received an answer yet. If he confirms it, my head tells me to cancel the car .. Don't know if I'm listening to that tough.

turbobungle · 21st October 2008, 03:06 PM

As I said in another post, I've downloaded the UK Brochure from the gtrnissan.com website and Nissan definately claim 0-62mph (0-100km/h) in 3.5 seconds. They also mention the 3 (yes THREE, not two plus one that voids the warranty) stage

'Advanced Electronic Stability Control (ESP) System with three driver-selectable settings:
Normal - Blah Blah Blah
R-Mode - Blah Blah Blah
Off - For when the driver does not want the help of the system

Disclaimer - ESP cannot prevent accidents due to abrupt steering, carelessness or dangerous driving techniques. Always drive safely.'

No mention that the warranty will be voided if you use the third selectable stage, not even in the disclaimer!

20th October 2008, 06:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Daggie GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34	Gear box .. straight from Nissan Europe Admin: This has been edited by request from Nissan GB. Publication of this article was not distributed with permission and represents a breech of trust.

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20th October 2008, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andy_ran GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 271	that does read as not our problem. I think it's like any car you modifiy from new, warranty will be honoured unless your mods caused the components to fail

21st October 2008, 08:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Daggie GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34	I did not know that mail was not for publication, because other posts on this forum on behalf of Nissan. (Nissan Motorline or something like that) Only difference was that mine came directly from Nissan Europe. As they stated in their message, not everything has been decided yet, so ignore my post should you have read it. I will respect Nissan's decision and would like to publicly appoligize for posting the message. I did not know it was confidential.

21st October 2008, 10:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
obzi GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middlesbrough, UK Posts: 20	HA HA!!!! I GOT THEM!!!!! (I think) have a look on the official website right now and you'll find this page, it's live as i write this. Nissan GT-R Media Press Release Detail Page Have a read and see for yourself that they ARE marketing the GTR with a 0-62 of 3.5seconds. Reads: In stark performance terms, 62 mph from a standing start appears in around 3.5 seconds, while its potential top speed is 195 mph (provisional figure). But it is the GT-R's astonishing ground covering capabilities that mark out the new Nissan, ably demonstrated by a 7m 38s lap of the demanding Nordschleife (Nürburgring), one of the fastest times ever recorded by a production car and achieved in less than favourable conditions. The words 'provisional' is in there but i'd like to see that go to court especially as the word provisional is after the 195mph. Also, can 3.5 seconds be classed as 'around' 4 seconds? (0-62 without launch control)

21st October 2008, 11:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
GT-Racer GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 320	To quote, "In stark performance terms, 62 mph from a standing start appears in around 3.5 seconds, while its potential top speed is 195 mph (provisional figure). But it is the GT-R's astonishing ground covering capabilities that mark out the new Nissan, ably demonstrated by a 7m 38s lap of the demanding Nordschleife (Nürburgring), one of the fastest times ever recorded by a production car and achieved in less than favourable conditions."

21st October 2008, 11:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
guyblue10 GTR Register Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 20	close but no cigar.... Read the last line * All specification details relate to the Japanese domestic version of the Nissan GT-R and may not be consistent with final European figures. Final European GT-R technical specifications will be confirmed closer to start of sales. Nice try....

21st October 2008, 11:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
GT-Racer GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 320	That was an official press-release, so I'll be holding Nissan to that claim.

21st October 2008, 11:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
GT-Racer GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 320	I'd argue that without releasing the UK specification before contracts are signed that Nissan are treading on very dodgy legal ground here. Especially if there are significant changes over the Jap spec.

21st October 2008, 12:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zed Ed GTROC Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 181	bloody iphone

21st October 2008, 03:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
turbobungle GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: kent / www.turbobungle.com Posts: 163	As I said in another post, I've downloaded the UK Brochure from the gtrnissan.com website and Nissan definately claim 0-62mph (0-100km/h) in 3.5 seconds. They also mention the 3 (yes THREE, not two plus one that voids the warranty) stage 'Advanced Electronic Stability Control (ESP) System with three driver-selectable settings: Normal - Blah Blah Blah R-Mode - Blah Blah Blah Off - For when the driver does not want the help of the system Disclaimer - ESP cannot prevent accidents due to abrupt steering, carelessness or dangerous driving techniques. Always drive safely.' No mention that the warranty will be voided if you use the third selectable stage, not even in the disclaimer!