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GLOBAL AUTO JP · 22nd October 2008, 02:29 PM

What did you do to your brake master cylinder???

GLOBAL AUTO JP · 22nd October 2008, 03:28 PM

There should be problem with STD brake master cylinder, are you OK (safe) with STD???
Also, what did you do with ABS???
Please list up what owner also R32, R33, and R34.

GLOBAL AUTO JP · 29th October 2008, 07:17 AM

that's it??? anymore???

frostmotorsport · 29th October 2008, 09:28 AM

if the front and rear calipers are the same fluid ratio as the std brakes, you shouldn't have a problem with balance.

Unless your new calipers are MASSIVELY bigger volume than the std ones, you should be good with a std master cylinder.... even 12 pot calipers should not have a greatly increased volume - but a spec sheet on them will tell you that.

GLOBAL AUTO JP · 29th October 2008, 09:41 AM

In Japan most GT-R owners with aftermarket brake sets wouldn't run std brake master cylinder, especially people who would take their car to tracks.
STD brake master cylinder shouldn't be enough to push out enough volume for aftermarket brake sets.
I don't really know volume difference between different calipers but I guess that's the point need to be checked.

tarmac terror · 29th October 2008, 11:16 AM

Well, not having upgraded my calipers yet I have paved the way by fitting an M57 master cylinder of an R33 (apparently the biggest std GTR size there is) and removing the ABS. I also gave all the calipers a good servicing as I found 4 siezed pistons among the 4 calipers. Brakes are MUCH more effective now.
I plan to run 6pot Wilwood FR and 4pot RR.

TT

Nocturnal · 29th October 2008, 11:29 AM

I am currently testing a new set of brakes, front 6 pot and rear 6 pot... No problem at all at the track day, very balance and initial bite is great.

Standard R32 Master Cylinder with a Master Cylinder Brace.

I always thought a R33 GTR master cylinder is needed as they are bigger, but it looks like the Standard R32 master cylinder is fine from what I have seen.

pupsi · 29th October 2008, 04:30 PM

I only responded to this thread because I thought it read, For all GT-R owner's with big D***s, sorry wrong thread.

On a serious note though, does changing to the bigger Nismo cylinder not sufficient enough, when changing to bigger brake's or even just changing to the Nismo without the bigger brakes, does that not see any benefit's??

Smokey 1 · 29th October 2008, 04:38 PM

arnt the stagea's a bit more heavier than the R32's ?
ABS long gone.

Smokey

ChristianR · 29th October 2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLOBAL AUTO JP

In Japan most GT-R owners with aftermarket brake sets wouldn't run std brake master cylinder, especially people who would take their car to tracks.
STD brake master cylinder shouldn't be enough to push out enough volume for aftermarket brake sets.
I don't really know volume difference between different calipers but I guess that's the point need to be checked.

worked fine for me on the le mans bugatti circuit in my non standard r34 gtr, standard master cylinder and brakes. Just dba gold front and rear discs, and ebc gold pads. Couldn't fault them.

rockabilly · 29th October 2008, 08:21 PM

356mm all round, 8 pots front 6 pots rear, srf fluid, brake stopper, superb balance and stopping, no diving.. std master cylinder. bernie.

GT-R Glenn · 29th October 2008, 09:37 PM

Removed all ABS, fitted f/r Brembo's off R33.
Installed brake bias valve and set up my brakes ..........
Why is this a poll ??

pupsi · 30th October 2008, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockabilly

356mm all round, 8 pots front 6 pots rear, srf fluid, brake stopper, superb balance and stopping, no diving.. std master cylinder. bernie.

What brand kit did you go with Bernie??

GLOBAL AUTO JP · 30th October 2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-R Glenn

Removed all ABS, fitted f/r Brembo's off R33.
Installed brake bias valve and set up my brakes ..........
Why is this a poll ??

Why poll???
just using use of this place
Maybe for people who is too lazy to type

Basically, R33 and R34 std brembos are out of my concern.

Sub Boy · 31st October 2008, 10:17 AM

I have F40 fronts and R33 brembos on the back with a RS260 Stagea master cyl.

The RS260 is spose to be the biggest with a little more bias to the rear, Saves having to upgrade the rears.

The problem with the std master and bigger brakes on a 32, is long pedal. you might get good bite, but it is a bit spongy before then if you want to keep the ABS.

Do a search on F40 brakes, Sean talks about this setup as being the go according to Mr GTR.

View Poll Results: what your brake master cylinder?????
standard	31	79.49%
N1	2	5.13%
some aftermarket JPN made (ex: Auto Select, etc)	3	7.69%
some aftermarket non JPN made	1	2.56%
some internal trick with Nissan std parts	2	5.13%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

22nd October 2008, 02:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
GLOBAL AUTO JP GLOBAL AUTO JP is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Trader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Osaka, Japan Cars owned: somekind of GT-R Posts: 230	For all GT-R owners with Big brake calipers!!!! What did you do to your brake master cylinder??? __________________

22nd October 2008, 03:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOBAL AUTO JP GLOBAL AUTO JP is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Trader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Osaka, Japan Cars owned: somekind of GT-R Posts: 230	There should be problem with STD brake master cylinder, are you OK (safe) with STD??? Also, what did you do with ABS??? Please list up what owner also R32, R33, and R34. __________________

29th October 2008, 07:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
GLOBAL AUTO JP GLOBAL AUTO JP is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Trader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Osaka, Japan Cars owned: somekind of GT-R Posts: 230	that's it??? anymore??? __________________

29th October 2008, 09:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
frostmotorsport frostmotorsport is working for a living... how boring! GTR Register User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wellington, NZ Cars owned: '97 R33 GT-R, Evo 1 RS rally car, 3 Mk. II Escorts and many more! Posts: 1,144	if the front and rear calipers are the same fluid ratio as the std brakes, you shouldn't have a problem with balance. Unless your new calipers are MASSIVELY bigger volume than the std ones, you should be good with a std master cylinder.... even 12 pot calipers should not have a greatly increased volume - but a spec sheet on them will tell you that. __________________

29th October 2008, 09:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
GLOBAL AUTO JP GLOBAL AUTO JP is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Trader Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Osaka, Japan Cars owned: somekind of GT-R Posts: 230	In Japan most GT-R owners with aftermarket brake sets wouldn't run std brake master cylinder, especially people who would take their car to tracks. STD brake master cylinder shouldn't be enough to push out enough volume for aftermarket brake sets. I don't really know volume difference between different calipers but I guess that's the point need to be checked. __________________

29th October 2008, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Well, not having upgraded my calipers yet I have paved the way by fitting an M57 master cylinder of an R33 (apparently the biggest std GTR size there is) and removing the ABS. I also gave all the calipers a good servicing as I found 4 siezed pistons among the 4 calipers. Brakes are MUCH more effective now. I plan to run 6pot Wilwood FR and 4pot RR. TT __________________

29th October 2008, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nocturnal Nocturnal is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Banzai Oct.07 Issue Cars owned: Widebody BNR32 Posts: 2,549	I am currently testing a new set of brakes, front 6 pot and rear 6 pot... No problem at all at the track day, very balance and initial bite is great. Standard R32 Master Cylinder with a Master Cylinder Brace. I always thought a R33 GTR master cylinder is needed as they are bigger, but it looks like the Standard R32 master cylinder is fine from what I have seen. __________________ User Name Changed to MeisterR GTROC Offer To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

29th October 2008, 04:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
pupsi pupsi is RIPs BUILT TWEENIEROB INSTALLED AND MAPPED. New Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West London Cars owned: GTR R33. Posts: 3,329	I only responded to this thread because I thought it read, For all GT-R owner's with big D***s, sorry wrong thread. On a serious note though, does changing to the bigger Nismo cylinder not sufficient enough, when changing to bigger brake's or even just changing to the Nismo without the bigger brakes, does that not see any benefit's?? __________________

29th October 2008, 04:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smokey 1 Smokey 1 is building the dream New Users Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The big SMOKE 574 Cars owned: R 32 Posts: 1,827	arnt the stagea's a bit more heavier than the R32's ? ABS long gone. Smokey __________________

29th October 2008, 08:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
rockabilly rockabilly is wondering how to win the lottery New Users Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: whittle-le-woods Cars owned: R33 GTR v-spec stiggy reborn. Posts: 2,451	356mm all round, 8 pots front 6 pots rear, srf fluid, brake stopper, superb balance and stopping, no diving.. std master cylinder. bernie. __________________

29th October 2008, 09:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
GT-R Glenn GT-R Glenn is aware Veilsides street R32 gtr ran 8.612 @ 172.5 MPH (Radials) GTR Register User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Waiuku NZ Cars owned: R32GTR /GSXR1300DatsunB310/ R33 / KTM / Gasgas / Type R EG Civic Posts: 4,417	Removed all ABS, fitted f/r Brembo's off R33. Installed brake bias valve and set up my brakes .......... Why is this a poll ?? __________________

31st October 2008, 10:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sub Boy Sub Boy is a nana driver GTR Register User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ChCh NZ Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 3,382	I have F40 fronts and R33 brembos on the back with a RS260 Stagea master cyl. The RS260 is spose to be the biggest with a little more bias to the rear, Saves having to upgrade the rears. The problem with the std master and bigger brakes on a 32, is long pedal. you might get good bite, but it is a bit spongy before then if you want to keep the ABS. Do a search on F40 brakes, Sean talks about this setup as being the go according to Mr GTR. __________________ Last edited by Sub Boy; 31st October 2008 at 10:32 AM..

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