0-242 MPH in 1 Mile

[bladerider]

Originally Posted by bladerider

A few pointers,

1. "Stock bottom end" in the good ol US of A seldom means what we call stock over here. They are often just talking about the crank, and usually that has been treated and modified alot but it has not been replaced with a forged or billet item.

2. the Titan 3.4 kit isnt just a set of pistons last time I checked, so no, its not a stock anything !!!

3. The majority here touting the GT-R as the best all rounder are correct. A GT-R can make mincemeat of a supra of a similar build/value/power over a range of disciplines as TOTB has shown year after year, but as has been pretty well documented the 2jz is most probably the stronger engine and can therefore give you more bhp per pound certainly to begin with as you dont need to change internals until well past 6/700bhp.

4. The supra isnt glossed over, its just that they are massive in the US as they were sold there in large numbers and hence have the benefit of the US product makers general tendency for cheaper and more plentiful parts options. Here and in Japan they are considered very high performance but are not necessarily "the weapon of choice" because there are other tools available that are better - GT-R's being chief amongst them !! Yes a Supra is quick on top end as its slippery and powerful, yes with silly tyres they can accelerate fast, but a GT-R can do both of those almost as well without having to change setups in between and then can go to the track and wipe the floor with the Toyota. Its and overall champion rather than a specific discipline type car.

5. Anyone who thinks gearing has more to do with the top speed of a car when we are talking about 200mph+ rather than drag and power is insane. Obviously if you only had one high gear and it went to 190mph or 290mph at max revs it would be useless, but given that you can VERY easily change the gearing on any car through several means it will actually come down to grunt and resistance to that grunt - ie drag coeffiecients. All skylines will be worse than the Supra, and given that we are specifically talking about a 3.4litre Supra it has effectively got 30% more displacement than a standard GT-R. Its still over 13% more than the biggest version of the RB engine you can get - RB30 of whatever kind - so it will definately make that power easier to acheive.

Lastly - the point of the "Other marques" section of ANY car forum is so that people can discuss these things, however its not here so that you guys can try and ram non Skylines/GT-R's down our throats or try to make endless stupid comparisons. If you wanna be a Supdawg so badly just stick to that forum !!

Be well !!

J.

You guys obviously need to learn to read more and digest rather than read and argue immediately !!



Oh and threadjacked is a cool turn of phrase that I will now be using as my own, cheers !!

J.xx

[kaneda]

Bastard!

[supdawg79]

Originally Posted by bladerider

You guys obviously need to learn to read more and digest rather than read and argue immediately !!



Oh and threadjacked is a cool turn of phrase that I will now be using as my own, cheers !!

J.xx

No arguments here. Just pinning up the other side of the story from your post, since you went right at me at the end. This wasn't even a Supra vs. GT-R thread until you came in and made it one. You learned what threadjacking means and applied it as well!

[bladerider]

I know what threadjacking meant,

In the same way as "Iamyourfatherluke" is equivalent to "Oh bugger"

Its just until Return of the Jedi I hadnt heard it used before

Comprende ??

Ahthangu

[supdawg79]

Originally Posted by bladerider

I know what threadjacking meant,

In the same way as "Iamyourfatherluke" is equivalent to "Oh bugger"

Its just until Return of the Jedi I hadnt heard it used before

Comprende ??

Ahthangu

[NITO]

Having owned numerous Supras and Skylines (well, 2 of each!) I can honestly say that in my opinion, a Supra is a great deal more fun than a Skyline to drive!

As has been said, it really is beautifully balanced with fabulous steering, I wish Toyota hadn't ceased production because they have brought out absolutely nothing to replace it with!!

It is also a lot cheaper to tune and extremely reliable, the general cost of ownership is a great deal less which results in a lot more smiles per £.

Shame they are getting a little long in the tooth now and so many have been horribly chavved up!!

[DaveV]

Supras seem to be a seriously well put together and very tunable car, I'd love to try one for a while

Also, I agree with the non-bike sentiments, this is a car forum about cars isn't it? Not bikes, jets, boats, rockets or hovercraft.
Other Marques implies other 'Car' marques not other vehicles as I see it

[MIKEGTR]

Just think how quick the supra would be if every driver didn't have a huge medallion arond their necks

[m6beg]

Originally Posted by NITO

Having owned numerous Supras and Skylines (well, 2 of each!) I can honestly say that in my opinion, a Supra is a great deal more fun than a Skyline to drive!

As has been said, it really is beautifully balanced with fabulous steering, I wish Toyota hadn't ceased production because they have brought out absolutely nothing to replace it with!!

It is also a lot cheaper to tune and extremely reliable, the general cost of ownership is a great deal less which results in a lot more smiles per £.

Shame they are getting a little long in the tooth now and so many have been horribly chavved up!!

I ant no Chav Bro

Mick

[Boosted]

Originally Posted by m6beg

I ant no Chav Bro

Mick

innit mick...........safe bruv.............gwaaaaaaaaaan do anuva burnout, ma bredbin

[Undutched]

How come I don't see so many RX-7s at this stuff. I'm sure those have lots of potential as well. Very long gearing and good aerodynamics on top of that.

[bladerider]

Originally Posted by m6beg

I ant no Chav Bro

Mick

Thats cos the baseball cap is too big !!!



xx

[Boosted]

Originally Posted by Undutched

How come I don't see so many RX-7s at this stuff. I'm sure those have lots of potential as well. Very long gearing and good aerodynamics on top of that.

Has anyone ever managed to get one to complete a whole mile?

[kaneda]

Originally Posted by Undutched

How come I don't see so many RX-7s at this stuff. I'm sure those have lots of potential as well. Very long gearing and good aerodynamics on top of that.

There was like one there and I think he blew up. Seriously. I'm not joking. He ran once on Saturday morning and the car was parked the rest of the weekend. It disappeared Sunday afternoon before we left.

As far as the gearing though, I played around with FC and FD gearing a few years back when I was thinking about buying a 7, even with a high redline and a 3.90:1 ring and pinion from the JDM auto car it would be a pain in the ass. IIRC it was something like 195 mph @ 8500 RPM in 5th on an 18" tire.

[kaneda]

FYI, there were a couple of R35 GT-Rs out, all of which were stock and all of which were trapping in the mid-160 mph range. Very respectable for something with "only" 480 BHP. One guy showed up in a pretty beaten up R32 GTS but didn't make any passes. I don't think it was street legal either because they trailered it there, the guy drove around the paddock trying to showboat ("HEY LOOK AT ME! I PAID $30K FOR A BEAT TO DEATH R32 GT-S! AREN'T I COOL? I KNOW YOU HAVE A TWIN TURBO VIPER BUT LOOK HOW MUCH ATTENTION I GET FROM 12 YEAR OLD BOYS! AWESOME!"), then it was trailered back out (nearly running us off the road in the process). That was about it for the GT-R camp. 2 or 3 R35 GT-Rs, 1 R32 GTS and that's it.