I have a UK car and want more Power

[Henry 145]

Have changed from Cobb to ECUTek and have to say I much prefer the ECUTek maps...car feels much better and car was expertly set up by Litchfields.

[F1ASH]

SVM all the way.. Completely transforms the beast...

[WingedBeast1968]

Cobb AP, mostly for the updated TCM, and the ability to perform clutch relearn and adjustment. Top tool in the hands of a complete tool.

[Adamantium]

Just seen this thread and am surprised how loaded the poll is towards cobb options, but then I suppose it is from a time when the sales level gap between Cobb and Ecutek was much larger.

My vote would always go to ecutek, although a big chunk of that is to do with wanting to use iain Litchfield, it's also apparent to me that ecutek's development has significantly surpassed that of cobb when it comes to understanding both the engine and gearbox ecus.

The trouble is, if you are swayed by things like polls, that most people don't know the difference between the two. Most people have a map applied and think wow, it's faster than it was before, I vote for the product I decided on because I think my own choice must be the best.

We all do it, apparently it's part of human nature.

Both will give a chunky improvement in power, and unless you have tried both you may not appreciate any differences. I have not had a cobb on any of my cars, so I can't say the Cobb feels worse. It probably doesn't to the end user.

From a side by side technical explanation from Iain (who can install both) and also from John at the shop who is not biased either way, the ecutek can simply do more and provide more information and control. That will make for a better map if the mapper takes advantage of it.

[thistle]

It strikes me that your opinion is as well informed as others who are voting in this poll, it is a consumer poll, not a comparison of the products from a technical or tuner point of view. Since I've not tuned with Ecutek on the GTR, and you've not tuned with either, and AFAIK Iain hasn't tuned with Cobb on the GTR then that leaves the opinion of one tuner whose graphs you thought revolutionised OEM ECU tuning when the same feature was developed by Cobb two years ago and rejected as a waste of time because it was misleading.

Just another perspective to consider, but you and I are as biased as everyone else!

[Adamantium]

No, I am much more biased!

I think you should delve into what the ecutek can do now. You are one of the few qualified to understand what the differences are (if there are any worth mentioning). It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

[houlbt]

Originally Posted by Adamantium

No, I am much more biased!

I think you should delve into what the ecutek can do now. You are one of the few qualified to understand what the differences are (if there are any worth mentioning). It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

Me too.... ECUTEK in the capable hands of Mr Litchfield for me.

[WingedBeast1968]

Originally Posted by thistle

It strikes me that your opinion is as well informed as others who are voting in this poll, it is a consumer poll, not a comparison of the products from a technical or tuner point of view. Since I've not tuned with Ecutek on the GTR, and you've not tuned with either, and AFAIK Iain hasn't tuned with Cobb on the GTR then that leaves the opinion of one tuner whose graphs you thought revolutionised OEM ECU tuning when the same feature was developed by Cobb two years ago and rejected as a waste of time because it was misleading.

Just another perspective to consider, but you and I are as biased as everyone else!

Absolutely spot on. Except, Cobb Accessport empowers the customer with other, as yet, Consult III only, tools. Clutch relearn, TPMS program mode, data logging, that sort of thing.

Cobb and EcuTek change Nissan nonsense to their own flavour of binary nonsense. That's where EcuTek ends. This way, or the highway.

I don't have strong opinion, one way or the other, but as a software engineer, it's always going to be Cobb.

[Ja5on]

Man I'm confused which to go for now!

[Aerodramatics]

For what it's worth, right or wrong, next I'm most likely going for a stage IV Ecutek from Litchfield, sooner or later the Ecutek OBDII cable shall be released. My reason isn't specifically the tuning map per se, but rather Mr. Litchfield's sexily engineered turbos.

[Mark@Abbey M/S]

I have all 3 systems Cobb/EcuTek and Uprev that can be used to tune a 35GTR and have tuned cars with all the 3 systems

Still un-decided what's system works best, maybe time will tell.

[MidLifeCrisis]

My choice was Cobb simply because it leaves me in control, and able to do things like clutch relearn myself. Another influence was Ben @ GTC offering absolute backup with custom maps to suit my car as different modifications get installed.

I know Lichfield and Ecutek offer a great service, but to get it I'd have to drive hundreds of miles which rules it out for my money.

[Sinth]

Ill be going to SVM in the upcoming future for stage 1 having spoken to Amar over the phone. The idea of the cobb diagnostic tools and clutch relearn capabilities mentioned above swayed me towards it. Also the fact the the map is bespoke to each car was another deciding factor. From what I read on another thread the stage 1 ecutek is a generic map? No one told me otherwise when I asked the question but I could be wrong.

[Adamantium]

What you know of Ecutek regarding clutch relearn etc was true until recently when they released a cable (extra cost) that enables clutch relearns and remote mapping among other things. It also lets you tinker with the ecutek software (not the maps) and do all the diagnostic things th Cobb does but rough a laptop not a dedicated device.

I'm pretty sure all ecuteks done by Litchfield are tweaked to the individual car, so you aren't getting a generic map. You'll be getting a generic base ap o starting poiint but everyone mapping will do that if they can. It saves a lot of time.

Companies wise, it personal choice, based on w confident you feel when talking to the people you'll be dealing with. You'll not go wrong with th choice you have made. The downside for me is that I believe h ecutek to be a superior and (now) better developed and supported product. The Cobb had some advantages but I think they have been removed by the release of the cable. The main one being remote mapping.

[Sinth]

There is a strong possibility that the stage 2+ might be all custom to each car but i think all stage 1 is generic. There was another thread where a tuner went to a customers house and carried a stage 1. Without the dyno don't see how he managed to tweak the map for the individuals car.


Sorry being pessimistic but i come from the bmw scene and all the tuners are bs'ers having had first hand experience.