Petrol prices again

[furrywoolyhatuk]

Originally Posted by Snowfiend

LOL...The Texaco on the A217 near Epsom mate, still 105.9p though.

First time in my life I wished my daily driver was a diesel I tell ya !

Thats down the road from me, let me grab my coat.....

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by Thrust

Here in Japan we are paying around 120 yen a litre, which if you calculate at 160 yen to the pound, gives you 3/4 of a pound, ie 75p.

It's creeping up, but even so the UK seems to be a little cheeky.

Who'll be the first to start importing Japanese petrol tankers that just happen to be full?

[Trev]

Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t

Who'll be the first to start importing Japanese petrol tankers that just happen to be full?

Vin Desiel?

[Jason abz]

I use bio diesel for the vans , about 10 to 15 pence a litre cheaper for anyone thats just paying for travelling to work etc.
Greedy oil companies eh?.............lol..........wish it was as simple as that.
It must be deeply confusing for your average consumer though.....oil prices drop so petrol pump prices have to rise.......oil prices go up so petrol pump prices have to rise again. It does make everyone angry unless they do a bit of research.
As we have been here a million times before its probably not worth moaning about it again however don`t forget the tax on your fuel at the pumps........... thats the bitter pill to swallow. You only have to look elsewhere in the wolrd at pump prices to see its not the oil companies that are to blame in the UK.

[YokoAE86]

Why is it going up again while we are at the bottom of a recession? How much import duty is attributed to the cost/litre?

[Jason abz]

Not having a go but i hate this media frenzy over recession. We suffered a market / banking crash and there on, an economic downturn. A recession proper would mean that the bank of England would have had no alternative but to hike up interest rates, they did the opposite to ease downturn and stimulate spending. The average person on the streets of the UK has not been impacted by this at all with more disposable income at the end of the month than before.
The only impact really is greedy companies using it as an excuse to freeze pay rises and of course cut contractor rates etc. I know this will probably not please those that have suffered redundancy recently due to companies running away now that the investment bubble has been burst however lets not forget, your average person on the street is not involved in stock market dealings, tax evation, offshore banking etc.
I personally couldn`t care less if someone or a company who was worth 100 million last year on paper is now only worth 25 due to poor market traders and investments. All amounts to greed anyway so unlucky. If you spend on the lottery every week you don`t go bleating to the media everytime you don`t win claiming camelot must be in trouble.

[R33_GTS-t]

LOL. This is some great spin. Where does this twat keep popping up from?

[R33_GTS-t]

Petrol up, Jason up. You remind me of that Algae in lakes and canals that rises to the surface in summer.

What you're seeing is the difference between someone sensible who pays off their debts and the Labour way. Labour policy makes no sense. 6-12 months before the recession they were all about cutting public sector pay-rises and now they can afford to throw money everywhere. National debt is at an unprecedented high relative to GDP and is set to increase. There's no doubt that patching over the cracks with borrowed money might help see them through to the next election but it's not a longterm strategy. Brown is trying to win an election not secure a longterm future. It's funny how everyone including the IMF said that the UK was worst placed to deal with the recession but Brown thinks it isn't. Same dumbass chancellor who ****ed up Britain's banking system. When the debt reaches a given proportion relative to GDP, the lenders will stop lending through fear of not getting their money back (just as national banks did with home-buyers) and then we'll be back where the last bunch of Labour clowns ended up.

People may have more disposable income, if they're still in work but they are poorer. What they're seeing is a fractional return of the money they already had in their houses and could have accessed if they'd desperately needed to anyway. They have spent the last few years working for nothing, less than nothing in many cases. Now the extra disposable income they're receiving is actually just partially and slowly replacing what they already had in their houses, which has now disappeared. Sorry if I don't see that as a good deal. Sorry if I feel that several bankers should be facing a civil lawsuit actioned by the government, as happened in Sweden in the '90s.

And wrt your example of a £100m company now worth £25m - what impact do you suspect that has on stock price and therefore cash flow? How will the company respond to that? By laying people off or forcing them to work for reduced pay. I think as a child you used to always take out the bottom tin at the supermarket and expect the rest of the stack to remain in place. I would dearly love to see companies take on responsibility for loss but unfortunately they just tip it on to the housing market whenever they feel themselves losing. Either that and/or rip off the consumer, which I believe brings us back on topic.

[Jason abz]

Worst understanding of ecenomic policies ever posted on a website.
The disposable income paragraph even funnier...........what has equity in a house got to do directly with disposable income you nugget?lol I think you are confusing disposable income with ability to borrow.Get mum to explain it.lol
What makes you think i support Brown and labour? Never voted Labour in my life, never will either.
You bleeding heart liberals make me sick......or let me guess, you refuse to vote because that will teach them.......yawn!You anarchist you.

I forget which thread you are crapping on but by the way, new car was worth the wait thanks for asking.
Would rather pay 1.10 a litre for petrol and be employed and have money to buy it than oil prices falling, 99p a litre and not have the disposable to buy it. Now go for a long drive in your lovely new motor and make me some more money!! lol ;-)

Like i said before, you have PM function, try using it.

[J44MAA]

Originally Posted by furrywoolyhatuk

Would you like to tell me where, my diesel volvo (dont snigger) needs filling up!

Biodiesel 86p/litre

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by Jason abz

Worst understanding of ecenomic policies ever posted on a website.
The disposable income paragraph even funnier...........what has equity in a house got to do directly with disposable income you nugget?lol I think you are confusing disposable income with ability to borrow.Get mum to explain it.lol

I understand it perfectly. People worked to put money in their house, that was taken through bad financial management on behalf of the banks and corporate fly-tipping and is now being drip-fed back to them whilst they continue to work. What a fantastically shit system. Your argument that people are richer because they have more disposable income is bollocks. What about the money that they've already earned assclown? Where's that gone? It's gone into the banks and is in part underwriting companies, since they're mighty keen to dump workers when profit slips, which results in house flogging and foreclosure. So there you have it, people's hard earned equity has been squandered in banker's bonuses past and has served to prop up corporate share prices over the last 6-9 months as they laid off workers. The new disposable income is simply an excuse for utilities, energy, fuel and food suppliers to increase prices. So people are shit-raped either way. Sell a dream, provide a nightmare.

Originally Posted by Jason abz

What makes you think i support Brown and labour? Never voted Labour in my life, never will either.

I don't even think you're clever enough to support Man Utd let alone a political party.

Originally Posted by Jason abz

You bleeding heart liberals make me sick......or let me guess, you refuse to vote because that will teach them.......yawn!You anarchist you.

I'm a liberal because I believe that people should be allowed to keep the money they've earned? Or does that make me an anarchist? I'm not voting for a party whose campaign is funded indirectly by the money taken from people's properties through large corporate bosses and such. I know what their priorities are and they aren't the priorities of the other 59.99 million people. I'd vote for Bernie ****ing Madoff before I'd vote for Brown.

Originally Posted by Jason abz

I forget which thread you are crapping on but by the way, new car was worth the wait thanks for asking.
Would rather pay 1.10 a litre for petrol and be employed and have money to buy it than oil prices falling, 99p a litre and not have the disposable to buy it. Now go for a long drive in your lovely new motor and make me some more money!! lol ;-)

How about I find a way of counterbalancing the excess cost of the fuel through things that suddenly cease to work properly.

[Jason abz]

Yet again you make me smile!! xx
Mismanaged funds at the banks etc cause people to lose money? Why don`t you start a poll on here to find out how many people cannot go to their bank and withdraw any money they have put into it in the last 5 years? I think you will find the figure non existant but i suppose that won`t stop you harping on like you know what you are talking about.
Sorry you failed again to vaildate the link between someones disposable income and being in negative equity on their house......don`t want you to miss out on that one. I will ask again every month if you want?lol lol Mind you, i did for several ,asking you to give us one single shred of evidence to support your property claims and that didn`t turn out too good for you , did it?
Anyway, F-, try the PM function as you are only making a tit out of yourself again.
oh, PS, remember i am Mycroft in disguise as well, who can forget that clanger!!lol lol

[Daryl TunerLab]

127 JPY for Hi Octane today Glad the GTR stil has a full tank!
I can bet that we will see a 50% increase in prices this summer though. Better begin stockpiling!
But then again, I didn't buy a GTR because it was fuel efficient.

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by Jason abz

Yet again you make me smile!! xx
Mismanaged funds at the banks etc cause people to lose money? Why don`t you start a poll on here to find out how many people cannot go to their bank and withdraw any money they have put into it in the last 5 years? I think you will find the figure non existant but i suppose that won`t stop you harping on like you know what you are talking about.

Would they actually be drawing out 'their' money, or would it be the tax money that people are going to pay back sometime in the future. Bit of a mind bender that one. The money you put in is gone and the money you're drawing out is what either you, your son, or your grandson will pay back sometime in the future.

The money they had as equity was in fact just money they'd paid to fulfil a decade of bullshit boom on behalf of the bankers. Whilst they thought they were putting money into a house, it was actually just going into bonuses and fronts for yet more risk taking in order to obtain more bonuses.

Originally Posted by Jason abz

Sorry you failed again to vaildate the link between someones disposable income and being in negative equity on their house......don`t want you to miss out on that one.

If you fail to understand, then you're probably one of the irresponsible bastards who didn't pay back their loan. Anyone in negative equity with disposable income should be disposing of it in one way only, if they're responsible. Hence it isn't actually disposable. And what's the point in someone having disposable income if they've just lost X tens of thousands in equity? So they can pay higher petrol prices? I mean FFS, here's an example. Sorry Jason, I've bombed your house after robbing it, but here's a fiver. Your disposable income has increased, you should be happy, right?

Originally Posted by Jason abz

I will ask again every month if you want?lol lol Mind you, i did for several ,asking you to give us one single shred of evidence to support your property claims and that didn`t turn out too good for you , did it?
Anyway, F-, try the PM function as you are only making a tit out of yourself again.
oh, PS, remember i am Mycroft in disguise as well, who can forget that clanger!!lol lol

Well so far, we have an impossibly quick cancellation with Sky helpdesk and a sold property with no traceable web adverts that sold for the full asking price a month ago. In Blackburn too? Because that's an obvious place for the oil industry, especially when you already have a flat in Manchester.

[gtr R33 lee]

Originally Posted by J44MAA

Biodiesel 86p/litre

Used engine oil 0.00p a litre!