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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Er, as ARW has repeated my request for some pics of Charlie's 740 install, can we have some pics of your install please! (Charlie)

I'm tempted to get the retro-fit when/if it becomes available, but the extra functionality of a TomTom, most importantly speed cameras, makes it look like poor value as it is bound to be very expensive.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Er, as ARW has repeated my request for some pics of Charlie's 740 install, can we have some pics of your install please! (Charlie)

I'm tempted to get the retro-fit when/if it becomes available, but the extra functionality of a TomTom, most importantly speed cameras, makes it look like poor value as it is bound to be very expensive.
Well I was gonna take some tomorrow during daylight (!) but since you're desperate.....














I used an old dashmount bracket carefully placed between the upper and lower parts of the dash. Hardwire kit from TomTom runs down into the footwell.

David, any guesses why my OBD socket is open..........??
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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I used an old dashmount bracket carefully placed between the upper and lower parts of the dash. Hardwire kit from TomTom runs down into the footwell.
Neat - and I guess that's out of the way there... I still want to try my suggestion by the MusicBox to see if it reduces reflections. Just ordered 740 LIVE online - works out at £210 (after £30 cashback)

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David, any guesses why my OBD socket is open..........??
Hehe - you have the AP EDM map installed?
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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hehe - you have the AP EDM map installed?
Just installed stage 2 before I left work, then drove home logging some parameters to make sure all was good.

All I can say is rearrange these letters...


H L Y O C K F I N U G O C W !!!!!


I may have to drop down to stage 1 map as it is brutal. More fun to be had tomorrow me thinks......
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In danger of going slighty off thred (a couple of beers can do that) - is there no appertite for the Litchfield goodies Vs AP - my perception (so please no flaming) is a subtle but balanced impovement (must confess to previously owning a Type 25 from the Litchfield stable) Vs a more "play it loud" option (watch Good Morning Vietnam).
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Charles Charlie - good option - thought about that position but was concerned about a restricted view due to the steering wheel.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 11:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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View is great as I've never had a satnav in front of me in any car I've owned. I tend to go by the audio directions and the odd glance down. Being able to access teh screen easily is a godsend over screen mounting IMHO.

I cant comment on the AP vs Litchfield stuff other than I like having control over the flashing myself i.e. I can go back to my stock map prior to service and update maps as they become available.

The soon to be sorted data logging will be useful too, as will being able to use different maps for trackdays etc.

For me the AP was always on my mind so I just had to have a play!
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Thanks Charlie (forgot your real name!), I didn't mean in the middle of the night!

I can see why it works ergonomically, although it does look a bit odd blocking off that air vent.

Do you pay the £7pm to keep Live going? I don't do enough miles to justify that I think. Will it still have live traffic avoidance without it, i.e. via TMC? Losing mobile camera updates would be annoying, but I wonder how truly up to date and accurate they are on Live?

Congrats on the AP, brave man going straight for Stage 2!
Do you have a Y-pipe fitted? I think Benji said it was designed for at least a Y-pipe and better still full cat-back.

I will post up my AP experience shortly.
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I use a £3 vent clip for a PDA, takes 2 mins to fit and easy to unclip it

now have a smaller holder

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Old 4th July 2009, 09:42 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I saw a TomTom mounted on a vent clip and it was the flimsiest thing I've ever seen! Wobbles and moves around under the slightest g-force.

Out of all the options so far, I still think the old fashioned windscreen mount looks neatest and detracts from the interior the least.

Unfortunately they are seldom up to the task of keeping the unit attached under sustained maximum g!
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Thanks Charlie (forgot your real name!), I didn't mean in the middle of the night!

I can see why it works ergonomically, although it does look a bit odd blocking off that air vent.

Do you pay the £7pm to keep Live going? I don't do enough miles to justify that I think. Will it still have live traffic avoidance without it, i.e. via TMC? Losing mobile camera updates would be annoying, but I wonder how truly up to date and accurate they are on Live?

Congrats on the AP, brave man going straight for Stage 2!
Do you have a Y-pipe fitted? I think Benji said it was designed for at least a Y-pipe and better still full cat-back.

I will post up my AP experience shortly.
I paid for the LIVE services as I would have been paying for some sort of camera update anyway. I dont do that many miles but I like to have everything updated hassle free.

I have the Willall y-pipe fitted and stage 2 runs (so it seems) perfectly. I know it may be some kind of placebo effect but I would say it runs better at low speeds too. Acceleration is so brutal and silky smooth.

My only reservation at the moment is the tranny. I'm having my fluids changed next week following my trackday exertions so I will keep off the beans until the fluids are nice and new.

My AFR runs 14.4 at tickover, and ranges from 11.8 to 18.8 during road use. What have you seen with stage 1?
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I paid for the LIVE services as I would have been paying for some sort of camera update anyway. I dont do that many miles but I like to have everything updated hassle free.

I have the Willall y-pipe fitted and stage 2 runs (so it seems) perfectly. I know it may be some kind of placebo effect but I would say it runs better at low speeds too. Acceleration is so brutal and silky smooth.

My only reservation at the moment is the tranny. I'm having my fluids changed next week following my trackday exertions so I will keep off the beans until the fluids are nice and new.

My AFR runs 14.4 at tickover, and ranges from 11.8 to 18.8 during road use. What have you seen with stage 1?
14.4 and 18.8! Are you sure? That sounds mighty lean to me! I haven't uploaded the data log I took on the rolling road yet and haven't done any on-road data-logging yet.

Just running Stage 1 with the Milltek pipe. Feels much stronger, but I'll do a separate post shortly.
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I paid for the LIVE services as I would have been paying for some sort of camera update anyway. I dont do that many miles but I like to have everything updated hassle free.

I have the Willall y-pipe fitted and stage 2 runs (so it seems) perfectly. I know it may be some kind of placebo effect but I would say it runs better at low speeds too. Acceleration is so brutal and silky smooth.

My only reservation at the moment is the tranny. I'm having my fluids changed next week following my trackday exertions so I will keep off the beans until the fluids are nice and new.

My AFR runs 14.4 at tickover, and ranges from 11.8 to 18.8 during road use. What have you seen with stage 1?
Thank you for the update, can you comment on the noise increase? is it massively louder than standard?

Enjoy the car now with a CAP on it!!
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now this is getting interesting - remaps already under user test!

Andy - have you checked with Benjy that those AFR's are OK? I wouldn't want to have the discussion with NUK re a blown engine for the sake of 20bhp when you already have 540 - 550 with a Stage 1.

Please give us some more feedback as you do more miles with it.

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14.4 if fine for tickover, and 18.8 could well happen when you lift off the throttle.

What really matters is where is the AFR under large throttle openings and when the revs rise.

As the revs rise I would expect it to move into the mid 12's & then on to high 11's. So best thing is to set the logger going and then go full throttle in 3rd or 4th to the red line and have a look at the log.


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