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Old 15th August 2009, 10:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Was the engine properly broken-in and how old was the engine oil ?
I hope it's repairable without having to buy a new engine from nissan but that's the first time I hear about such a failure. Keep us posted and good luck !
Im not interested in a repaired engine....the engine had all services,6500km old,had a seelf paid oilservice on the 2000km service at the HPC....so it had 4500km old oil,all was serviced how it should.....i will either get a new engine very soon or a new GTR if they can´t bring in a new engine very soon.....
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Old 15th August 2009, 11:45 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Bad luck that mate. hope you get it sorted!.

Did anyone get a copy of that documentation that was signed on pick up day?. I have most of my stuff in my lock up but it's miles away and I'll not be there until Sept.
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Old 15th August 2009, 03:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If the AP didn't cause the damage, what did????????
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Old 15th August 2009, 03:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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If the AP didn't cause the damage, what did????????
No or too less oilpressure
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Old 15th August 2009, 08:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Hi Axel! That really was a downer buddy! You're right about one thing though, Nissan most certainly didn't bother to do any 'honest' or professional high speed autobahn testing. If they wanted to sell the car in Germany as a super sports car on par with a Porsche Turbo, they really didn't do their homework. We ALL know that the R35 in it's current form has substantial thermodynamic problems, most of which are also made all the worse because of Nissan's choice of crappy factory-dictated lubrication products.

I don't suppose you had the presence of mind to look at the oil pressure at the time the 'problem' occurred? Did you happen to look at the oil pressure regularly, just as a precaution, or to develop a feeling for what was normal? My guess is that that silly Mobil 1 Nissan loves so much just isn't up to our prolonged autobahn speeds -- just too thin at higher temperatures! Another thought would also be to look more closely into the 'plasma coating' theme, but from what I understood, forum user Wick said the plasma coating would tend to scrape away up at the highest point of top ring travel if it should ever fail. But you said there were just a few hairline scratches. In how many cylinders? Maybe a piston ring broke? Noisy, but driveable -- a wierd combination for sure.

Question after question..... At any rate you're one of the few individuals I personally would rate as competent enough in motor matters to lock horns with Nissan on a "valid" warranty issue. 'Holding my thumbs' as you Germans would say, and hoping that you manage to strike a blow for all the under privileged GT-R owners with a G-string warranty and set a precedent that Nissan must publicly honor in the future.

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Old 16th August 2009, 02:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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so the walls had the plasma sprayed iron ***** scratched up? are you saying that if you re-spray the bores it will work again? or is there still a oil pressure failure.

anyways, try reading over some of WINK 's posts to see if any of his info can help. doubtfull, but maybe.

regardless i hope you can donate your engine (if things dont go well) to an engine builder to produce a more powerfull one.

i hope you get your justice tho. its BS about adding cobb tune. nissan should at bare minium provide a nismo ecu as an alternate choce for those wanting a ecu.
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Old 16th August 2009, 06:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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i. its BS about adding cobb tune. nissan should at bare minium provide a nismo ecu as an alternate choce for those wanting a ecu.[/QUOTE]




Really I dont think so , Nissan are never ever going to warrenty cars that have access port are they ,or want anything else played around with on a new car that would give power gains . Hope the car gets sorted BTW,very unlucky .
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Old 16th August 2009, 07:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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if you use an AP, is it logged somehow in the factory ECU? I'm guessing yes - first thing all bikers do when they've got a Power Commander and a warranty issue is yank out the PC, but then, the PC never really hurts anything other than emissions and fuel economy; I've heard that, at least for Jap bike owners, they rather like the PC because it allows the engine to run richer than permissible due to emissions, but the 13.5:1 AFR makes for a happier and longer-lived engine, or so I've heard.


Anyways, I agree - Nissan isn't obligated in any way manner fashion or form to support the aftermarket. In a way, as soon as you mod something, you are truly on your own. That's why, although I had thought about it (an 800bhp R35, side-exit exhausts, does sound rather lovely doesn't it? ), I've decided to stick to old cars to tune.

That being said, having the plasma liners die due to oil starvation doesn't say much about Nissan's quality. Is the oil pump functional and oil pressures normal? I wonder if the oil just degraded and turned to water due to the high temps - IIRC the spec oil, other than being shitty Mobil 1, is extremely thin. I had plenty of good theories and reasons why to run thin oil, but after using Motul 0W-20 and 5W-30, and then spinning a bearing, I've learnt my lesson!
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Old 16th August 2009, 09:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The problems is not the bores.......the crank and its bearings are ****ed....the damage to the bores was due too little lubrication and does not make a noise,it is just a few hairline scratches.....nothing that makes any sound,more like typical sctratches on a high milage enigne.....

We will know very soon what broke exactly,at the moment i just know what happend and what the dealer said....we will disassemble the engine very soon
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Old 16th August 2009, 09:46 AM   #25 (permalink)
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So it´s officiall now, Alex... As I said on the phone, very sorry to hear about the failure. I really hope it all gets sorted.

Please keep us posted.

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oil pressure failure obviously. That has nothing to do with a remap.

You're definitely taking it in stride - if this had happened to me - oil failure, and then Nissan denied my warranty claim, I would be through the roof in outrage! But with how much an R35 costs around here, well that would just add to the level of outrage
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Old 16th August 2009, 06:48 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Alex, have you asked the same question over on the NAGTROC.
With lots of owners with many miles under their belts would be interesting to know how many occurances of engine problems, if any
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Old 16th August 2009, 07:38 PM   #28 (permalink)
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oil pressure failure obviously. That has nothing to do with a remap.

You're definitely taking it in stride - if this had happened to me - oil failure, and then Nissan denied my warranty claim, I would be through the roof in outrage! But with how much an R35 costs around here, well that would just add to the level of outrage
Im not so sure tbh..
Nissan have every right to refuse the claim after making it VERY clear that engine & ecu mods would cancel the warranty, they certainly didn't do lots of high speed testing with an extra 50bhp/100lb torque..
Remember Alex paid his money & said he'd rather have a fast GTR without a warranty than a 'slow' GTR with..
He also did numerous 0-100, 0-200 & 0-300kmh runs..
Whilst I sympathise with Alex I also think that he made his choice & now has to live by his decision.
I certainly hope Nissan sort it for him & if they do he'll be a very lucky man..
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Old 16th August 2009, 08:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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gtr R33 lee, what? RB's spin bearings all the time!
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