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Old 17th August 2009, 06:47 PM   #46 (permalink)
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What does German law say about guarantees etc? Would be nice if Nissan had to prove the mods caused the damage, as lack of/no oil pressure would have to be down to a manufacturing fault surely?
Nissan has to prove the mods caused the damage....yes.....
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Old 17th August 2009, 07:57 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Sorry to read about your problems Alex, heard it through the bushes the other day. Haven't even seen it in the flesh!

If it has boobs or wheels, it will give you problems.. What else can you say?

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Old 17th August 2009, 08:54 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I think we Americans have been milking the engine for a lot of power, but lots of transmission failures...
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Old 17th August 2009, 10:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I have played with the electronics,yes,but this was clearly not the reason for the engine to break,just the reason for Nissan to void the warranty....if they would have not found the remap,they would have found i have been on track or something else....my engine would have been broken even in stock trim,im 100% sure and we will find the reason for this very soon......

I dont need Nissans Warranty,but they should build a engine that is reliable,mine wasn´t and the Nissan germanys presscar wasn´t reliable too.....
its not just Nissan who would have voided it...Any manufacturer would..porsche vw bmw subaru..anyone.

Do hope you get it sorted but this has put me off the cobb for sure for now.
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Old 18th August 2009, 06:20 AM   #50 (permalink)
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its not just Nissan who would have voided it...Any manufacturer would..porsche vw bmw subaru..anyone.

Do hope you get it sorted but this has put me off the cobb for sure for now.
no,every other manufacturer would have looked if the small upgrade would have been the reason for the engine to break........If your a car manufacturer and you know you have a problem with your engines(like Nissan does with the GTR´s in europe) and a customer comes in with the same failure as all the others....then you would repair it as you know it would have happend anyway and make the customer happy,maybe give him the advice what he does is not correct....and if he does it again his warranty is voided....this time he was lucky.....something like that....

Small example: A friend has a car of a german premium carmaker,he misshifted,instead 5th he got 3rd......engine was gone,warranty not paying for it as it was clear it was his mistake + car was chipped too(from 270 to 320hp),he bought a new enigne and was happy again.....after around 4 weeks he got a letter with the warranty accepted.....all his paid money back....this customer is never buying any other carmakers cars in the next years.

I would not have to need for prove that mine is just one of a few,nobody would have ever heard of problems in germany....but Nissan chose to go the hard way.....there we are

Im having a lot of trouble,i dont have my GTR since 4 weeks and nothing has happend till now.....do you think Nissan has asked me if i would need maybe a rentalcar......no,they dont care even if its proven that my car was one of those sold from new with a bad engine.....

Did i tell you about my car not doing what Nissan claimed from 0-100km/h,mine did 4sec flat,not 3.5sec like they say,or topspeed around 15km/h off...most of the german cars are down on power....nobody cares....like usual.

Nissan needs to sort these problems fast,as there is a lot of worried german customers.....we(the german customers) are happy to speak with Nissan about how to solve the problems...but Nissan needs to be interested too).
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Old 18th August 2009, 08:06 AM   #51 (permalink)
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i remember one of my mates telling me about someone they knew with an evo, he blew and engine or something like that and mitsubishi made him remove all the mods and then they would cover it under warranty, yeah it cost him a bit to get it put back to standard but they still instated the warranty as before they said it wasnt the mods that would have caused the problem. But their warranty was void if the car had mods. So putting it back to standard fulfilled the warranty.

Cant give you anymore details im afraid as i cannot remember for the life of me who told me! :S

i hope that it gets sorted for you mate!
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Old 18th August 2009, 08:20 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Reading this, I just want to add my oppinion...
Alex, I understand what you are saying, but I would say it this way:
Officially, you broke the warranty rules. That is clear.
Another fact is that Nissan could be freindly and helpful and they could give you "one more chance" and solve the problem for you on warranty.
But that is just their will.
I think that that is not their official obligation...
You are right that they are not friendly and that they obviously don't want to help you and make you sattisfied.
But I think that you are not right when you say that they would have to accept the warranty, after you installed the AP, cause it cleary says in the manuals that if you do any changes on electronis, warranty will be voided.
Hope you will get it sorted though!
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Old 18th August 2009, 09:40 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Evo6, was it you at Hockenheim in May ?

YouTube - Importracing Nissan R35 GTR @ Hockenheim F1 Track,wet conditions

Maybe you should have cared about what Nissan was saying after all...
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Old 18th August 2009, 12:48 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Nissan's official worldwide stance is:
'Deny everything if there is one mod'

I have gotten more press for the GT-R in the US market then anyone else. I ran into an issue a month ago, Nissan NA tried to help but was overridden by Nissan JP. Took them ~3 weeks and eventually they resorted to looking thru the forums for data to deny the warranty claim. Was quite amusing to look thru the google analytic data for the website and seeing NNA and NJP IP addresses watching videos we have posted.

There will be a full thread on my experience and findings over on NAGTROC later this week.

Good luck battling Nissan.

Btw, there is one guy at Nissan the makes the call on engines warranty or not.
He is the gatekeeper, Kazutoshi Mizuno. My contacts got me his name but haven't been able to get me any contact info.
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Nissan's official worldwide stance is:
'Deny everything if there is one mod'

I have gotten more press for the GT-R in the US market then anyone else. I ran into an issue a month ago, Nissan NA tried to help but was overridden by Nissan JP. Took them ~3 weeks and eventually they resorted to looking thru the forums for data to deny the warranty claim. Was quite amusing to look thru the google analytic data for the website and seeing NNA and NJP IP addresses watching videos we have posted.

There will be a full thread on my experience and findings over on NAGTROC later this week.

Good luck battling Nissan.

Btw, there is one guy at Nissan the makes the call on engines warranty or not.
He is the gatekeeper, Kazutoshi Mizuno. My contacts got me his name but haven't been able to get me any contact info.
I can confirm that Nissan, always has reflects by looking for flaws from your side;

With my transmission (Visco error) it took me 7 weeks, before they admit it was a failure. Meanwhile I got the remark that Japanese engineers looked at my youtube account in order to see if the car was abused.

It is really a bad customer care job of Nissan!!!!

I wish you good luck, this is also the reason that modding is not done.

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Old 18th August 2009, 02:04 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Evo6, was it you at Hockenheim in May ?

Maybe you should have cared about what Nissan was saying after all...
Yes,that was me.....and tbh,i bought a car with a switch to switch of the VDC...i can use it as often as i want,its my switch,in the specification of the car at the time i bought the car is written down: "Off-if the driver does not want the help of the system"......i have never agreed to anything else...never signed the Nissan paperwork.

You guys do forget one thing.....the fault on my car is the same fault as on other european cars...exactly the same.
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Old 18th August 2009, 02:24 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Good luck Alex! its a shame they are making such a fuss, but i think the law suit will wake them up a little, since they will have to prove your mods did the damage, i can see they will have a nice time trying to spin up some story about how it could!

Good luck!
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Old 18th August 2009, 02:24 PM   #58 (permalink)
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But how many other, non-tuned European cars, had engine damaged?
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Old 18th August 2009, 02:24 PM   #59 (permalink)
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i make you right dude.

If you bought a PC, changed the hard drive and then the Monitor exploded, the manufacturer should honour the warranty

in the UK the sale of goods act puts the onus on the retailer to prove the fault is customer error.

unless the manufacturer can PROVE the cobb caused it to run lean or whatever, i can't see how they can deny your claim.

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Old 18th August 2009, 02:28 PM   #60 (permalink)
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But how many other, non-tuned European cars, had engine damaged?
enough....even the German Nissan Press GTR had a failure....and some more cars too


I am more the happy when Nissan would sort out my problem fast....the faster they do,the faster the negativ words disappear....i really love the car,but it was sold to me with a engine that was not ok,as it had a fault like many others have too.....
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