Anybody having engine problems yet or has heard of??

[Guy]

My sympathies on this.

The problem is that by tuning the car, the position of Nissan is very strong in declining the warranty claim, even if it's not probably caused it. You would have no chance of winning in a UK court, I hope your position is better in Germany.

I have posted a thread about this in the General Chit-Chat section on the forum, so a wider audience can see this.

The shame is that Nissan have clearly not designed the car to be used properly, which is why just about every part (engine, gearbox and axles) overheat when others have used them on trackdays and fast road driving. By comparison Porsches simply do not ever overheat in any of these circumstances. My 996 GT2 was tuned by Ruf to a dyno proven 630PS and not once did I ever see the oil/water temperature go above normal, on over 30 trackdays, many 'ring laps or numerous 200mph runs on Autobahns and at Bruntingthorpe. In the product literature for the GT2 it is stated that they tested the car by running it at Nardo at maximum speed (196mph) for two full fuel-tanks and ensured that at no point did any operating temperatures exceed the specified range. Nissan cannot stop the car over-heating after a few laps on track and it's a disgrace, since thats how they promote the car.

This is why the most common topics on NAGTROC, where the cars have been around longer is about which oils, frequency of oil-change, up-rated box/engine/diff coolers etc. I don't know anyone who ever fitted any cooler, ever to a GT2/3. My GT2 had one gearbox oil-change in 5 years and an annual oil-change, thats it.

[Mark B]

That's the thing with building a budget supercar, it can be fragile...

A decent Porsche is double the cost, and for a good reason.

TBH I think Nissan are well within their rights to void warranty on engine failure if the ECU has been fiddled with. Good map or not, fiddling with it's brain is a pretty significant intervention and they have no idea what you have done to the ignition timing or afr...

[EvolutionVI]

Originally Posted by Mark B

That's the thing with building a budget supercar, it can be fragile...

A decent Porsche is double the cost, and for a good reason.

TBH I think Nissan are well within their rights to void warranty on engine failure if the ECU has been fiddled with. Good map or not, fiddling with it's brain is a pretty significant intervention and they have no idea what you have done to the ignition timing or afr...

You are right.....if i would have a melted piston or something like that...none of that is with my engine....it didn´t have enough oilpressure,simple as that,nobody ever touched the oilsystem appart from Nissan.....you dont get low oilpressure from 40-50hp more....

[Guy]

Originally Posted by Mark B

A decent Porsche is double the cost, and for a good reason.

The gap is narrower than that:

GTR now is nearly £60k list.
GT3 is £82k

So it's a about a third more, not double.

[mifn21]

Originally Posted by Guy

My sympathies on this.

The problem is that by tuning the car, the position of Nissan is very strong in declining the warranty claim, even if it's not probably caused it. You would have no chance of winning in a UK court, I hope your position is better in Germany.

If he can prove an underlying manufacturing fault (ie identical failures on totally standard cars) then surely he'd have a case?

[EvolutionVI]

Originally Posted by mifn21

If he can prove an underlying manufacturing fault (ie identical failures on totally standard cars) then surely he'd have a case?

I can prove it.....have all the data to back it up....total standard,even Nissan HPC´s owned Demo GTR´s have got the same failure then mine....

[EvolutionVI]

Originally Posted by Guy

The gap is narrower than that:

GTR now is nearly £60k list.
GT3 is £82k

So it's a about a third more, not double.

If you add the costs for maintainance for 3 years...then they are the same...

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Guy

The gap is narrower than that:

GTR now is nearly £60k list.
GT3 is £82k

So it's a about a third more, not double.

Why GT3?

It's a far more relevant alternative to a Turbo, which is £100k without looking at the options.

Philip

[Mark B]

True.

But with a few options a GT3 is also well up into the 90k bracket. Regardless, it's a significant amount more money.

Evolution, if it was the pump then it may be worth getting an independant engine failure report done, and seek a solicitor. Depends if you think you have a case. But it could be costly.

[gtr R33 lee]

Originally Posted by Jm-Imports

i thought you had few issues with yours ?? i think any engine is going to give up ghost sometime..

one of my favourite engines is the 2jz

Mine was 4x standard power so probs expected!
What i dont expect is probs with a near standard car,
Iv just purchased a very nice R34 gtr, its hasnt blown up in 3 days like the R33 so fingers crossed!

[Jacey Boy]

Thank **** I sold my GTR, just couldnt be doing with all this warranty crap and huge running costs, good ridens

[Philip]

Originally Posted by gtr R33 lee

What i dont expect is probs with a standard car...

Originally Posted by EvolutionVI

my car has a Y-pipe,catback Milltek exhaust,K&N filterinlays and the Cobb AP stage 2 97oktan mapping

Hope that helps if you think about keeping your warranty or losing it and having fun......

Not standard (but this doesn't change the fact that it sounds more like a manufacturing fault than anything else).

Philip

[Oldskool]

Originally Posted by Jacey Boy

Thank **** I sold my GTR, just couldnt be doing with all this warranty crap and huge running costs, good ridens

Already? You only had it 5 minutes.

[gtr R33 lee]

Originally Posted by Philip

Not standard (but this doesn't change the fact that it sounds more like a manufacturing fault than anything else).

Philip

Philip i did change it to "near standard" before you posted, im just surprised by the 35s faults tbh, seems the quality has gone in which nissan stood for for so long, would be nice that the issues were ironed out and ppl tuned them to say 50% more than there factory output with no issues then i would get to like the new beast..

[waltong]

Originally Posted by Guy

The gap is narrower than that:

GTR now is nearly £60k list.
GT3 is £82k

So it's a about a third more, not double.

£90K by the time you've included seats and a stereo and dare I say Sat Nav!