R35 - Engine Failure in Europe - Warranty Denied

[Hazardous]

Originally Posted by EvolutionVI

Its a lot more then just 3 cars....all with the same failure,nearly all of them have been stock

Out of interest, how many are you aware of Alex? Are there lots?

[misters3]

I've got nothing to add but my best wishes, because one day it might be any of us up against it, oh and maybe some black humour....(i realise this will be a repost - but still funny)

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[Mookistar]

exactly

in theory failures should be so rare that they can be investigated fully and decided upon on a car by car basis

trouble starts when you get lots of cars going wrong they will operate a much more kneejerk response.



mook

Anyone wanna swap thier unreliable 35 for my solid as a rock 33?

[gtrlux]

Originally Posted by Guy

Most German Porsche tuners offer a warranty for the complete drivetrain. I had a 2 year engine/drivetrain warranty from Ruf on my 630bhp conversion. I know of many others who offer similar, even on chip-tuning.

Guy, the problem with a tune up for the GTR is that there is no prestige car tuning company that tunes the GTR, because there are:
1) not many GTRs on the road
2) there haven't been any GTRs before two month ago
3) euhhh ahhhh buuuuhhh a japanese car !!!!

RUF is an excellent company, a friend of mine had his Porsche also tuned over there, but you know that the warranty is payed in the heavy price as well. . .with RUF we are not talking Cob tuning in my mates garage, but each engine is send to hell and back for reliability testing, then RUF also feels better on the warranty matter.

[stealth]

Originally Posted by Guy

Most other dealers have always said Y-pipe invalidates warranty, as thats what's written in the manual.

Of course if MH are offering to warranty it themselves thats a different story. I suspect they had just planned to replace the stock pipe before making any claims in the event of problems.

Of course places like Middlehurst will sell and a fit y- pipe ,they are not going to fix the car for free if the gearbox or engine lets go .Personly I think it's up to everyone to do what he like to his / her car ,but if you have a cobb and or y- pipe fitted the chances are it will have no bearing on a faliure but warranty wise you are buggerd ,and rightly so .

[peterpeter]

How many and who?
So far not a single Uk car has had this problem
and I've not read anything on any other forum

US owners have had transmission issues
and I understand that these are now v rare
after the new software but I've read nothing about
an epidemic of engine problems over there or japan too

I'm not saying you are wrong but considering the number of cars
sold it would be good to get some facts before calling this a major problem

[Guy]

I don't think it's a major issue at all.

However it is worth highlighting given that there are people including HPCs selling modifications and saying 'it does not ffect warranty' when it is clearly not true. The same applies to those who say there have been no engine failures.

Owners can still choose to modify if they wish, but at least they have a better understanding of the risk. Having been through several engines in prior GTRs the warranty was a key appeal to me and that's why my car will stay standard.

[Wildrover]

Originally Posted by Guy

I don't think it's a major issue at all.

However it is worth highlighting given that there are people including HPCs selling modifications and saying 'it does not ffect warranty' when it is clearly not true. The same applies to those who say there have been no engine failures.

Owners can still choose to modify if they wish, but at least they have a better understanding of the risk. Having been through several engines in prior GTRs the warranty was a key appeal to me and that's why my car will stay standard.

I agree - 485bhp is enough for me and the cosmetic mods aren't my cup of tea.

Keep it standard and enjoy the peace of mind.

[stealth]

Originally Posted by peterpeter

US owners have had transmission issues
and I understand that these are now v rare
after the new software but I've read nothing about
an epidemic of engine problems over there or japan too

When the car was released in the US there was a lot of them being dragged ,maybe there still is but with the knowledge about the gtr we have now ,maybe not so much .

[peterpeter]

Originally Posted by Guy

I don't think it's a major issue at all.

However it is worth highlighting given that there are people including HPCs selling modifications and saying 'it does not ffect warranty' when it is clearly not true. The same applies to those who say there have been no engine failures.

Owners can still choose to modify if they wish, but at least they have a better understanding of the risk. Having been through several engines in prior GTRs the warranty was a key appeal to me and that's why my car will stay standard.

Me too for the time being
I'll take a serious look at the official nismo gear when it
appears but for now I'm staying standard

[Nicks_Pop]

Don't forget we're evidently talking about failures which are probably related to high speed (autobahn) blasts for semi-extended periods. Conditions that are not normally encountered in the US, Asia, or UK. It would appear that extended periods of high revs really tax the dry/wet sump construction of the R35 beyond its durability limits -- albeit limits which are however LEGAL.

Don't forget, according to forum member 'wink' the original R35 development engines were evidently putting out much more torque & power than the tamed down version Nissan chose to actually market. The block and most internals are evidently pretty robust.

[EvolutionVI]

The problem seems to be related to the first +/- 300 eurocars....most of them are the democars of the dealers ...which 3 of them dealercars in germany are having the same problem + the Nissan presscar and a few more,only very few private owned cars in the first batch delivered to europe.

Nissan know about this problem,they are investigating these engine at the moment,they know the engines have had a problem(if not they would not have broken),they know it happend after highspeed driving(which we in germany can do every day as long as we want,compared to US/UK/JP where you normaly not go over lets say 100mph for a longer distance,only if you want to get sent to jail or have your licence away...)

They know from having a manufacturing defect,but still do nothing...i say it again,its not my fault that the engine broke.........

[Zed Ed]

There are a few of us on here with very early cars

[EvolutionVI]

Originally Posted by Zed Ed

There are a few of us on here with very early cars

Whats your number,i mean you had a early delivered car,or am i wrong

[Mookistar]

Originally Posted by Wildrover

I agree - 485bhp is enough for me and the cosmetic mods aren't my cup of tea.

Keep it standard and enjoy the peace of mind.

lol, your obviously not a proper GTR owner

mook