Accident: Don't do what I did....

[Crispy Rice]

I'm sorry to see some people think I am making this up, I just didn't want anyone else to have a similar accident. Hopefully the invoice will arrive with me today and I will forward it on to waltong and maybe the prices in future will be reduced.

Also its worth adding I love my GTR and was gutted when i damaged it. So was very pleased at the completed repair job.

[Mark B]

Ignore the stupid posts on here Crispy. I know you own the car!

[clint thrust]

Originally Posted by Crispy Rice

I'm sorry to see some people think I am making this up, I just didn't want anyone else to have a similar accident. Hopefully the invoice will arrive with me today and I will forward it on to waltong and maybe the prices in future will be reduced.

Also its worth adding I love my GTR and was gutted when i damaged it. So was very pleased at the completed repair job.

I don't doubt it's true but why are we still in the dark about who actually did the job?.

Why all the mystery.

[Steve]

Yeah, damage, assessment, repair, bill, why don’t you have a copy already?

[The Rookie]

OK first post on here, having been given the link from a Subaru forum - sorry guys!

I work in the automotive industry (including at Jaguar when the latest XK was launched) and there has been some rubbish spouted in this thread about the pedestrian safety aspects and requirements.

All cars sold in Europe have to pass the same pedestrian safety requirements to be approved under "European Whole Vehicle Type Approval" (known as EWVTA), part of this (relevant to the pyrotechnic bonnets) relates to peak deccelerations of a human head 'fired' onto various parts of the bonnet and other front end structure parts.

To pass this test you need space under the bonnet within which to absorb the impact slowly enough to keep peak G levels down, hit the top of the engine or a suspension hard point for example and the car will fail.

Some cars have adopted Pyrotechnic bonnet lifts in order to allow a low (visually pleasing) bonnet line while still (by the time the head hits it) having enough absorbtion space.

So having the pyro' bonnet doesn't make the GTR (or any other similarily equipped car) safer than the non pyro' cars, only as safe, disabling the system will make it less safe. The same regulations are not in force in the US, so like the Jag XK the R35 doesn't get the pyro bonnet 'over there'.

Legally there is nothing to stop you disabling the system once the car is registered (many cars have switches or keys to allow passenger airbags to be disabled) but you would have to tell your insurer (its a modifiaction that could affect the size of any claim - failure to not tell them could have immense consequences should they decide you're uninsured and have a protential multi million claim from someone with serious brain uinjuries) and even then you may have increased consequences should an accident injure a pedestrian as any civil claim would take account of the fact you had chosen to make the car less safe than the norm, although its very unlikley that this (directly at least) would end in any criminal prosecution.

Simon

[ScottyB]

Originally Posted by Crispy Rice

I'm sorry to see some people think I am making this up, I just didn't want anyone else to have a similar accident. Hopefully the invoice will arrive with me today and I will forward it on to waltong and maybe the prices in future will be reduced.

Also its worth adding I love my GTR and was gutted when i damaged it. So was very pleased at the completed repair job.

Crispy,

No need to explain yourself.

You were kind enough to post about your experience to give the rest of us heads up on the matter.

Regards

ScottyB

[Wildrover]

Originally Posted by WingedBeast1968

That's more like it.
So it would seem that if something is too bad to be true, it isn't.

I think it would be good for a moderator to file this thread in the bin, where it belongs. And any other dreamers with it.

This thread has had 89,000 views and everyone in the world thinks it costs £11k to fix a GTR after a small accident.

I agree DELETE this thread now, while traders think the car is still worth something!

[Mark B]

But hang on, this is what Crispy's insurer has had to pay???

[misters3]

Originally Posted by Wildrover

This thread has had 89,000 views and everyone in the world thinks it costs £11k to fix a GTR after a small accident.

I agree DELETE this thread now, while traders think the car is still worth something!

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Get a grip

Who cares what other people think? What matters to me is that we get the facts and if it was £11k, hopefully it won't be £11k again for any of us.

And that was the point of the OP. Give him a chance to post his invoice and lets discuss this with Guy and Nissan GB etc to sort.

Deleting threads is a stupid move all round.

Think of Evo's thread and the outcome after all the hardwork. If that thread had been deleted for negativity we wouldn't have had the VDC OFF is fine situ we have now.

BTW Have you seen the Shelby Mustang bonnet costing $22k? There are plenty of threads like this all over the internet. It's best to get to the bottom of things and post the facts as they appear, rather than deleting threads.

[tigger]

From an insurance point of view, it would be better to have the GTR as it stands without the device being disabled rather than face a huge Personal Injury/death claim that can amount to many times the £11k thats being bandied around here.

Insurers would be more disturbed to think that you would intentionally disable a potentially life saving device.

I agree with everything said by the rookie.

[tonigmr2]

You R35 owners do get hysterical sometimes!

Why don't you await for the outcome of the various enquiries being undertaken on your behalf at the moment?

[misters3]

Originally Posted by tonigmr2

You R35 owners do get hysterical sometimes!

Why don't you await for the outcome of the various enquiries being undertaken on your behalf at the moment?

I agree as i said above.

In fact threads like this should be made a sticky so that all potential and current owners know of the issues.

Similarly on E90post they have a sticky with cracked alloys on certain cars. It's got so much momentum it was on Watchdog a few weeks back.

[kk1]

I agree, the facts should be given whether they give a negative image of the car or not.

Theres no need to get hysterical.

The more the apparent "negatives" that come out in the open the better the chance of improving the car, it certainly doesn't mean the product as a whole is crap.

Too many negatives going around concrning the GTR but you know what I am still loving the car and hopefully like the other issues something good will come out of this.

[jae]

Heh heh heh.

There are some people on this thread who fulfill the following criteria:

"If Nissan were giving away a £1000 bank draft with each car, you would complain about the way it was folded and put in the glovebox."

Let the people with the contacts do the investigating. Then decide when you have information. Anything else is speculation, or for the few addressed above, hysterical speculation.

For the people who favour plain speaking:

Get a grip. Shut the **** up and let the people in the know do their stuff.

Have a NICE day.

[Mookistar]

all right kids, play nice.

The OP is stll on here, he's not posted and run and has promised to post a full breakdown when he gets it

i've stated the full story will be added to the OP if the facts turn out to be different.

However, we never once deleted an threads about VDC, or warranties, or any of the other rumours and bad press, so we won't be deleting this

mook