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Bernie_78 · 14th November 2009, 04:38 PM

So first post, was forwarded this thread from another forum but felt I wanted to reply. I don't own a GTR and very jealous of those of you who do, count yourself lucky you do.

As for disabling the bonnet lift, if you are niaeve enough to believe that every situation of a pedestrian being hit is the pedestrian's fault then you really shouldn't be allowed a licence.

I watched the woman I love be hit by a driver pop the pavement as he misjudged a corner and drive straight through her, this was at 22mph in a 30 according to the police report but traction control would of saved her. the driver was of course fine, my fiance died in hospital

I watched a friend get hit by a 350Z driver on his mobile drive through a level crossing. He was doing 15-20mph. Not only did he suffer brain damage that has forced him to quit his job but he has become a near recluse. The driver was physically fine, and having seen him in the pub numerous times enjoying a much better quality of life than my friend.

I for one thank legislators and manufacturers for developing such safety initatives as anything that prevents anyone else going through this sort of pain, even if its just one person is worth it in my opinion. I would imagine in 99% of such crashes the guy in the driver's seat is unharmed, do you think the pedestiran is? If it was your daughter/wife/friend who for whatever reason is the person walking out in front of you, would you then want the bonnet to lift and possible allow them to live or their head to hit your windscreen?

This is aimed at the few, not the many, yes that price is high, but i would hope we all believe that system is a good thing to have.

mifn21 · 14th November 2009, 04:56 PM

Noone said that every situation was their fault. If I was lucky enough to own an R35, disabled the bonnet system and then hit someone out of my own fault, I would take whatever was thrown at me by the law. If its their fault however, why should I be out of pocket? I don't think you can take a pedestrian to court over repair costs

When you weigh up the likelihood of pranging a car into another car against the likelihood of hitting a person, the extra cost just doesn't add up. The system is a brilliant one, but it needs to be affordable to replace! If it was a 500 pound job to sort then I don't think anyone would advocate disabling it

As it stands £10k+ is a bit unreasonable!

If you were in the dealership ordering a new car and the salesman said to you "we have this pedestrian safety feature as an option. It's free to fit, but should you hit ANYTHING at however minor a speed, the feature will deploy and cost you 10 grand to fix and be able to use the car again" you wouldn't say "hell yeah where do I sign up?!" would you!

Wildrover · 14th November 2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mookistar

this thread has been linked to on sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many forums!!! Yet more bad press for the GTR

mook

Is it worth considering locking or hiding the Thread until there are some more FACTS to add?

I personally enjoy my R35 and don't want running costs and depreciation to be unnecessary inflated by rumours.

rymoss · 14th November 2009, 05:30 PM

This is a joke!!! For more nonsense please read my post tittled

NOT UNDER WARRENTY !!!!!!!!!

Rich001 · 14th November 2009, 05:35 PM

The thing is with this pedestrian safety system like mifn21 said is it is far too costly to replace especially considering that maybe 90% of cars do not have such systems. I think most people's problem is with Nissan ripping off their customers for parts. This goes for any part for this particular car in the form of GTR tax.

I agree that pedestrian safety is important however I would not be happy faced with this bill/situation if I say hit a dog or something along those lines.

Neither is this the system something I find desirable on a sports car for weight saving and performance reasons.

I am very sorry for your loss though Bernie, I don't me any disrespect.

Mook · 14th November 2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildrover

Is it worth considering locking or hiding the Thread until there are some more FACTS to add?

I personally enjoy my R35 and don't want running costs and depreciation to be unnecessary inflated by rumours.

Rumours? Speculation? R35 GTR? Not in the same sentance surely?!?!

you make a good point, I think however the debate is worth leaving open, however when facts do become clearer I will ensure the original post reflects this. Have any HPCs added comment yet?

mook

Boosted · 14th November 2009, 06:08 PM

Personally speaking, I think all the negative publicity is caused by disgruntled Porsche owners. What with having an inferior car, and tiny willies (their main reason for buying a Porsche in the first place), they feel the need to troll the internet and pose as GTR owners with the sole intention of bad mouthing Nissan and their new GTR. Jealousy is such a cruel mistress!!

waltong · 14th November 2009, 06:57 PM

47,000 views! I bet the cost of advertising on the site will be going up soon!

Zed Ed · 14th November 2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mookistar

this thread has been linked to on sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many forums!!! Yet more bad press for the GTR

mook

lol, the consensus view seems to be that she is costly, high maintenance and will keep you awake all night.

like all the best rides

Hope4Sun · 14th November 2009, 10:13 PM

Oh dear the whispers are spreading

M5 Board "Lets all kick the front of GTR's" there goes the neighbourhood....

waltong · 14th November 2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope4Sun

Oh dear the whispers are spreading

M5 Board "Lets all kick the front of GTR's" there goes the neighbourhood....

M5 owners wear slippers.......they'll never set it off!

gtrterry · 15th November 2009, 09:14 AM

ok this thread started on the 12th and i think in a way we are getting away from the point
'why was the bill so high' has anyone yet got to the bottom of this issue, as i believe this is really what we need to find out and if this guy has been ripped off or this is the right costing for the job
bernie very sorry to hear your loss
can we please get to the bottom of this

Boosted · 15th November 2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope4Sun

Oh dear the whispers are spreading

M5 Board "Lets all kick the front of GTR's" there goes the neighbourhood....

Let the M5 ladyboys have their fun, cos we can have ours. Simply stick a magnet on the M5's diff housing. That confuses the electronic sensor and then it can't decide what mode it should be in, so it shatters the gears.

waltong · 15th November 2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrterry

ok this thread started on the 12th and i think in a way we are getting away from the point
'why was the bill so high' has anyone yet got to the bottom of this issue, as i believe this is really what we need to find out and if this guy has been ripped off or this is the right costing for the job
bernie very sorry to hear your loss
can we please get to the bottom of this

Crispy has requested a full invoice from his Insurers....until we get that it's a waiting game i'm afraid. We are in the Chat section of the forum so I think we should encourage people to talk. It's not all doom and gloom. Think we are up to 130+ R35 owners on the owners list and i'm sure most are as happy as Larry with the car.

As soon as the claims information is available I'm on the case

G

johnny senna · 15th November 2009, 12:44 PM

Looks like we're getting somewhere.........

14th November 2009, 04:38 PM	#106 (permalink)
Bernie_78 Bernie_78 has no status. New Users Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1	So first post, was forwarded this thread from another forum but felt I wanted to reply. I don't own a GTR and very jealous of those of you who do, count yourself lucky you do. As for disabling the bonnet lift, if you are niaeve enough to believe that every situation of a pedestrian being hit is the pedestrian's fault then you really shouldn't be allowed a licence. I watched the woman I love be hit by a driver pop the pavement as he misjudged a corner and drive straight through her, this was at 22mph in a 30 according to the police report but traction control would of saved her. the driver was of course fine, my fiance died in hospital I watched a friend get hit by a 350Z driver on his mobile drive through a level crossing. He was doing 15-20mph. Not only did he suffer brain damage that has forced him to quit his job but he has become a near recluse. The driver was physically fine, and having seen him in the pub numerous times enjoying a much better quality of life than my friend. I for one thank legislators and manufacturers for developing such safety initatives as anything that prevents anyone else going through this sort of pain, even if its just one person is worth it in my opinion. I would imagine in 99% of such crashes the guy in the driver's seat is unharmed, do you think the pedestiran is? If it was your daughter/wife/friend who for whatever reason is the person walking out in front of you, would you then want the bonnet to lift and possible allow them to live or their head to hit your windscreen? This is aimed at the few, not the many, yes that price is high, but i would hope we all believe that system is a good thing to have. __________________

14th November 2009, 04:56 PM	#107 (permalink)
mifn21 mifn21 has no status. New Users Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 2,549	Noone said that every situation was their fault. If I was lucky enough to own an R35, disabled the bonnet system and then hit someone out of my own fault, I would take whatever was thrown at me by the law. If its their fault however, why should I be out of pocket? I don't think you can take a pedestrian to court over repair costs When you weigh up the likelihood of pranging a car into another car against the likelihood of hitting a person, the extra cost just doesn't add up. The system is a brilliant one, but it needs to be affordable to replace! If it was a 500 pound job to sort then I don't think anyone would advocate disabling it As it stands £10k+ is a bit unreasonable! If you were in the dealership ordering a new car and the salesman said to you "we have this pedestrian safety feature as an option. It's free to fit, but should you hit ANYTHING at however minor a speed, the feature will deploy and cost you 10 grand to fix and be able to use the car again" you wouldn't say "hell yeah where do I sign up?!" would you! __________________

14th November 2009, 05:30 PM	#109 (permalink)
rymoss rymoss has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 13	This is a joke!!! For more nonsense please read my post tittled NOT UNDER WARRENTY !!!!!!!!! __________________

14th November 2009, 05:35 PM	#110 (permalink)
Rich001 Rich001 is RRR'd New Users Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 356	The thing is with this pedestrian safety system like mifn21 said is it is far too costly to replace especially considering that maybe 90% of cars do not have such systems. I think most people's problem is with Nissan ripping off their customers for parts. This goes for any part for this particular car in the form of GTR tax. I agree that pedestrian safety is important however I would not be happy faced with this bill/situation if I say hit a dog or something along those lines. Neither is this the system something I find desirable on a sports car for weight saving and performance reasons. I am very sorry for your loss though Bernie, I don't me any disrespect. __________________

14th November 2009, 06:08 PM	#112 (permalink)
Boosted Boosted is bending over and taking one for the team GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,186	Personally speaking, I think all the negative publicity is caused by disgruntled Porsche owners. What with having an inferior car, and tiny willies (their main reason for buying a Porsche in the first place), they feel the need to troll the internet and pose as GTR owners with the sole intention of bad mouthing Nissan and their new GTR. Jealousy is such a cruel mistress!! __________________ Last edited by Boosted; 14th November 2009 at 06:13 PM.. Reason: Because I can!!

14th November 2009, 06:57 PM	#113 (permalink)
waltong waltong is back on the road! GTROC Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kent Cars owned: R35, Alfa Mito. Previous: RS4, STI. Posts: 484	47,000 views! I bet the cost of advertising on the site will be going up soon! __________________

14th November 2009, 10:13 PM	#115 (permalink)
Hope4Sun Hope4Sun is Detaling the GTR most likley. GTROC Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norwich/Essex Cars owned: R35 GTR, X UK R34GTR V Spec :( Posts: 764	Oh dear the whispers are spreading M5 Board "Lets all kick the front of GTR's" there goes the neighbourhood.... __________________ Andy Mr Sheen has nothing on me!

15th November 2009, 09:14 AM	#117 (permalink)
gtrterry gtrterry is just running my baby in GTROC Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Cars owned: gt4 350z Posts: 84	ok this thread started on the 12th and i think in a way we are getting away from the point 'why was the bill so high' has anyone yet got to the bottom of this issue, as i believe this is really what we need to find out and if this guy has been ripped off or this is the right costing for the job bernie very sorry to hear your loss can we please get to the bottom of this __________________

15th November 2009, 12:44 PM	#120 (permalink)
johnny senna johnny senna has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 13	Looks like we're getting somewhere......... __________________

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