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neilo · 18th December 2010, 02:51 PM

Yes mate it is a wooden wheel lol i was woundering how long it would take before someone said something. The one on my car is Ron's [ RK ]

But it's not the one i'm going to be using as i have a carbon one.

Cheers Mikster i know what your saying but why did the FIA ban 4wd in circuit racing? was it because it was an unfair advantage over the 2wd cars?

thescotsman · 18th December 2010, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikster

Dont think the 4wd is ever going to make you go really fast round a circuit. It will help you get the power down, but just think it will hold you back in the corners, except perhaps in the wet

Such a nice car you are building though

Sorry hope neilo's thread doesn't get spammed up because I'm asking this but curiosity is getting the better of me. Can I ask why you think 2wd is better then 4wd? Just want to know because I've never had a 4wd skyline round a track. Surely the front wheels pulling the nose of the car into and out of the corner is altogether better no???

Still watching every post neilo. Keep it coming

neilo · 18th December 2010, 05:57 PM

I can understand what Mikster saying as having less weight by not having all the 4wd parts is always good and that 4wd can cause understeer if not setup correctly but you only have to look at all the 4wd skyline models which have raced in the past with 4wd and against 2wd cars where the skylines have dominated! maybe thats why 4wd was banned?

bpm32 · 20th December 2010, 09:17 AM

Beautiful car!

RRSS · 20th December 2010, 12:43 PM

Hi Neilo

I was up at Steve's on Saturday as he's going to be making the cage for my R32, have to say yours is looking great, will be awesome when finished.

Christian

neilo · 20th December 2010, 08:21 PM

Cheers bpm32 and Christian.

I was at steves today working out my ride height, he mentioned you and your plans with your 32gtr.

By the time steves finished with mine yours and marks he'll know everything you need to know about skylines Lol.

RRSS · 20th December 2010, 09:28 PM

[QUOTEI was at steves today working out my ride height, he mentioned you and your plans with your 32gtr.

By the time steves finished with mine yours and marks he'll know everything you need to know about skylines Lol.[/QUOTE]

Lol, yeah I reckon he will, especially with all the stuff you guys are doing. I'll hope to catch up with you there one day chap, not only for a good old GTR chat but Steve was telling me about all the bits your making and although some isn't right for the direction I'm taking mine I'm sure there's some stuff I'll want from you, all looks top kit.

I did mean to do a build thread on mine but having not done it as I go I've got a bit of catching up to do, see if I get a chance over xmas

neilo · 24th December 2010, 08:24 AM

RK30 back from the engineers, very pleased with their work as their boring process was different than a few other enginering shops i spoke to and totally make sence [ thanks Tony G ].

Now all Ron's [RK] got to do is put it together!!!

Gjesdal · 24th December 2010, 01:25 PM

Nice looking engine you got there, what bore are you running?
Is this a custom made hideck block or on off the os-giken/kakimoto kits?
How thick is the spacer plate?

And could you please tell us more about the boring process?

Grinder · 24th December 2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gjesdal

And could you please tell us more about the boring process?

Sorry but LOL

neilo · 24th December 2010, 01:49 PM

This is an RK Tuning 3ltr bottom end which uses a deck plate 24mm thick and Ductile flanged liners, I'm sticking with 86mm bore and stroke.

After speeking to a few well known engine engineers to find out how they went about installing liners etc, I made my mind up on which way to go as the others i spoke to would treat each individual bore seperatly and centralise each cylinder before boring which is fine if the casting from the manufacturer is perfect BUT that is not always the case!

The company who i used would centralise the cylinders from 1 t 6 off the crank so you know they are perfectly inline and upright with each other which in my eyes is the best way to go especially on a race engine.

Lol Grinder it is a bit.

andy@amt · 24th December 2010, 03:16 PM

36mm bore not be very big cc wise LOL

neilo · 24th December 2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy@amt

36mm bore not be very big cc wise LOL

Classic one Lol you know what i mean

86mm bore and stroke

Grinder · 24th December 2010, 08:18 PM

That makes sense, pi x r^2 x h x 6 cyls where r=43, h=86 gives 3 litres

ODEngines · 25th December 2010, 12:42 AM

Thanks for sharing. Its interesting to see another style of hi-deck thats not an OS30 engine.

I noticed there isnt any dowels to locate the head to the plate, or are they just not pictured?

Also there seems to be a step in the alignment between trear oil return holes in the plate and the top of the block. Its worth drilling these so they are the same size all the way through to the sump.

I hope you will post pics of the whole build of the engine.

18th December 2010, 02:51 PM	#406 (permalink)
neilo neilo is N01 GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Cars owned: UK R34 GTR V-SPEC Posts: 2,612	Yes mate it is a wooden wheel lol i was woundering how long it would take before someone said something. The one on my car is Ron's [ RK ] But it's not the one i'm going to be using as i have a carbon one. Cheers Mikster i know what your saying but why did the FIA ban 4wd in circuit racing? was it because it was an unfair advantage over the 2wd cars? __________________ Last edited by neilo; 18th December 2010 at 02:55 PM..

18th December 2010, 05:57 PM	#408 (permalink)
neilo neilo is N01 GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Cars owned: UK R34 GTR V-SPEC Posts: 2,612	I can understand what Mikster saying as having less weight by not having all the 4wd parts is always good and that 4wd can cause understeer if not setup correctly but you only have to look at all the 4wd skyline models which have raced in the past with 4wd and against 2wd cars where the skylines have dominated! maybe thats why 4wd was banned? __________________

20th December 2010, 09:17 AM	#409 (permalink)
bpm32 bpm32 is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NYC Cars owned: R32 GTR, R33 GTR, E46 BMW, JZA80 Supra sold Posts: 28	Beautiful car! __________________

20th December 2010, 12:43 PM	#410 (permalink)
RRSS RRSS is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wondering why my toys always break.... Cars owned: R32 track car, Rangey Sport S/C - Fastest Tow Car in the South :o) Posts: 85	Hi Neilo I was up at Steve's on Saturday as he's going to be making the cage for my R32, have to say yours is looking great, will be awesome when finished. Christian __________________

20th December 2010, 08:21 PM	#411 (permalink)
neilo neilo is N01 GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Cars owned: UK R34 GTR V-SPEC Posts: 2,612	Cheers bpm32 and Christian. I was at steves today working out my ride height, he mentioned you and your plans with your 32gtr. By the time steves finished with mine yours and marks he'll know everything you need to know about skylines Lol. __________________

20th December 2010, 09:28 PM	#412 (permalink)
RRSS RRSS is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wondering why my toys always break.... Cars owned: R32 track car, Rangey Sport S/C - Fastest Tow Car in the South :o) Posts: 85	[QUOTEI was at steves today working out my ride height, he mentioned you and your plans with your 32gtr. By the time steves finished with mine yours and marks he'll know everything you need to know about skylines Lol.[/QUOTE] Lol, yeah I reckon he will, especially with all the stuff you guys are doing. I'll hope to catch up with you there one day chap, not only for a good old GTR chat but Steve was telling me about all the bits your making and although some isn't right for the direction I'm taking mine I'm sure there's some stuff I'll want from you, all looks top kit. I did mean to do a build thread on mine but having not done it as I go I've got a bit of catching up to do, see if I get a chance over xmas __________________

24th December 2010, 08:24 AM	#413 (permalink)
neilo neilo is N01 GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Cars owned: UK R34 GTR V-SPEC Posts: 2,612	RK30 back from the engineers, very pleased with their work as their boring process was different than a few other enginering shops i spoke to and totally make sence [ thanks Tony G ]. Now all Ron's [RK] got to do is put it together!!! __________________

24th December 2010, 01:25 PM	#414 (permalink)
Gjesdal Gjesdal is unaware they can edit their status Executive GTR Owners Club Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norway Cars owned: Nissan Skyline R32 GTR Posts: 90	Nice looking engine you got there, what bore are you running? Is this a custom made hideck block or on off the os-giken/kakimoto kits? How thick is the spacer plate? And could you please tell us more about the boring process? __________________

24th December 2010, 01:49 PM	#416 (permalink)
neilo neilo is N01 GTR Register Trader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Essex Cars owned: UK R34 GTR V-SPEC Posts: 2,612	This is an RK Tuning 3ltr bottom end which uses a deck plate 24mm thick and Ductile flanged liners, I'm sticking with 86mm bore and stroke. After speeking to a few well known engine engineers to find out how they went about installing liners etc, I made my mind up on which way to go as the others i spoke to would treat each individual bore seperatly and centralise each cylinder before boring which is fine if the casting from the manufacturer is perfect BUT that is not always the case! The company who i used would centralise the cylinders from 1 t 6 off the crank so you know they are perfectly inline and upright with each other which in my eyes is the best way to go especially on a race engine. Lol Grinder it is a bit. __________________ Last edited by neilo; 24th December 2010 at 06:33 PM..

24th December 2010, 03:16 PM	#417 (permalink)
andy@amt andy@amt is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: chesterfield Posts: 725	36mm bore not be very big cc wise LOL __________________

24th December 2010, 08:18 PM	#419 (permalink)
Grinder Grinder is lurking here GTROC Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 547	That makes sense, pi x r^2 x h x 6 cyls where r=43, h=86 gives 3 litres __________________

25th December 2010, 12:42 AM	#420 (permalink)
ODEngines ODEngines is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Cars owned: R34 GTR/RB315DETT Hideck prototype Posts: 59	Thanks for sharing. Its interesting to see another style of hi-deck thats not an OS30 engine. I noticed there isnt any dowels to locate the head to the plate, or are they just not pictured? Also there seems to be a step in the alignment between trear oil return holes in the plate and the top of the block. Its worth drilling these so they are the same size all the way through to the sump. I hope you will post pics of the whole build of the engine. __________________

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