KPGC10 - How much are they ?

[Boosted]

Matty

if that was for sale, how much would it cost?

I'm being curious, not after buying it

[typerchris]

wow that pic is stunning.

i wonder if my 33gtr will be worth as much as these in 30 years time haha

[godzilladom]

Originally Posted by Boosted

I take it you all know that Orange one is a Mk1 Ford Escort????????????????

[trackday addict]

A truly iconic car & PS30 a very wise choice

I must admit i would love to look seriously at one of these at some stage in the future but current pathetic exchange rates, shocking state of our economy etc don't even want to make me consider it seriously as of today.

The only nagging doubt for me would be if you went to the huge hassle of finding "the right one" would you then run scared of using it properly ie/ the odd trackday, the odd summer day blast on a decent country road etc?

As a static investment sitting polished in a garage then yep i understand it but i guess it's horses for courses - i woule be loathe to leave it sat there but would also dread bending it on a trackday (wouldn;t have to be your fault etc)

A sensible clone with 90% of the looks, 90% of the presence with the same engine & 97.5% of the sound would probably do actually
Saw a ground up restoration one with a 3.1 conversion for 1.8m yen the other day with mountains of build pictures.

Barring that a MK11 escort with a cossie conversion (I know i know heretic !!)

[Boosted]

Originally Posted by Boosted

Originally Posted by godzilladom

I take it you all know that Orange one is a Mk1 Ford Escort????????????????

Yes, it was for comedy value

[Babalouie]

Originally Posted by dean j

I remember reading a really long thread, i think on japanese nostalgic car where someone in Oz bought a KGC10 (not the real thing) and started to strip bits to check everything.

Hey, that's me! Here's the build thread, fellas: Japanese Nostalgic Car :: View topic - Project Hakosuka Build Thread


It's a bit of a long read, but then again it's a diary of my ownership of the car and its restoration for the past 2yrs. PS30-SB is a good mate of mine and has been an invaluable help over the years (so some of you lot should show some more respect!)

My car's a GTR clone, and is road car. I use it for the school run and the commute to work a few times a week (in fact I'm in it today) and occasional trackday car, and these things really are such wonderful cars to drive.


Mine puts out about 250brake and goes like hell. In terms of trackday pace, you won't be beating any Lancer Evos or anything, but at the last one I attended, our times ended up mid-pack with some S15s and 350Zs, so it certainly isn't embarassed by modern cars and is reasonably fast. Here's a youtube:
YouTube - Wakefield 15 Aug 09 1st Run

I guess one of the freedoms of having a clone instead of the real thing, is that it's no harm to modify it, and just like any JDM tuner car, there are loads of gear you can buy to make them faster. There isn't anything you can buy from Trust/HKS/etc so the brands you need to track down are a bit different, but then again, that's part of the fun isn't it?

My car's an ongoing restoration, and like any 40yr old car, it never really ends, so you have to see this as a bit of a hobby, but if you like a bit of DIY, they are very rewarding cars to work on, and to be honest, the parts and know-how situation hasn't really been a big problem. There are a handful of american owners on the JNC forum, and a few aussie owners too (we even did a group buy recently) so you would definitely not be alone.

But I would echo everything that has been said here, in that there are good ones and bad ones and you really have to be careful to pick the right one. Yes, they are rather expensive, and I would agree that even at the 20 thousand pound mark, you are not getting a concours car, but what you would get should be a nice solid base on which to build on. Just make sure that what you're paying for is a clean body and not a pile of flash instead. (I can supply some horror stories if required)

'Happy to help if any of you blokes have questions...

[Moff]

Wow, you guys have been busy !!!

Originally Posted by PS30-SB

What I think Moff and most sane people would want - especially if they are going to import an old car to the UK - is a KGC10 GT or GT-X model with a great deal of modifications ( most of them performance-oriented ) and which may - or may not be - tarted up a bit by making it look a little like a GT-R. As any such used car - even one to be used as a 'base' to work from - can only be talked about on a case-by-case basis, there's no real way that I can make a one-shot, cure-all, know-all post that covers everything you need to know. It just isn't possible. You can't do the subject justice.

Has anybody really thought about the ramifications of bringing a genuine PGC10, KPGC10 or KPGC110 to the UK or Europe? You'd be investing a hefty sum of money in something that most people don't recognise, let alone look at with admiration ( cue the "it looks like a MK.I Escort" jibes, as even seen on this thread FFS! ). All well and good whilst you enjoy your own little backwater of automotive history, but when it comes to a time when you want to sell - or have to sell - you'll soon find that you might have a hard time getting back anything like what you paid for it.

Spot on Chap

We have now ascertained it would have to be a KGC10 I would buy, with the target date of it being in my Garage in August 2013 (I hope exchange rate has improved by then !!!)

When the book arrives, I will scan piccies and post differences of the different models, and see if I can get one of the Japanese guys to translate some of it

[Babalouie]

That C10 Complete Book is fantastic, it gives you a LOT of detail on what trims and badges come on what model, etc.

But this one is good too, it's more along the content of the Hyper Rev magazines that you can get for modern JDM cars.




So more of a focus on mods and aftermarket parts etc.


Also has a buyers-guide section at the back, with common rot spots, etc. Pretty good book to have on your shelf if you're contemplating buying one

[Moff]

Looks like I will have to buy that too, can I get it from Amazon Japan too ?

[Babalouie]

Not sure mate, but it's G-Works KGC10 Vol.2. I think it's also published by San Ei Mook like that other one.

[ru']

Originally Posted by Babalouie

Hey, that's me! Here's the build thread, fellas: Japanese Nostalgic Car :: View topic - Project Hakosuka Build Thread...

Fantastic; cheers for the link

[blitzman]

That book looks great.
Have to get mesell a copy.
Good link too,
cheers.

[Perra]

First I´d like to say that I´m glad the thread is back on track. And second, I´ve ordered some books from here:

Lindbergh Automotive Bookstore ***

I have no idea if I´ll get them but they seem to be legit. I read what Alan posted and got so interested in knowing more that I ordered 3 books.

Of course, I´m in the same position as most in this thread: I´d LOVE to have a KPGC10 but I simply can´t afford one. We´ll see if I can beat Moff to it and get a KGC10 before 2013.

/P

[dean j]

Babalouie. Good to finally say hi, and im glad your on the forum too!

I loved your JNC thread. Read every bit of it (with envy).

So how did you come across your car in the end? Was it sourced for you? Maybe a private seller on Yahoo? I'd be very interested to know how you went about sourcing it

[Moff]

Originally Posted by ru'

Fantastic; cheers for the link

Agreed, just taken me 20 mins to read page 1 ....

On to page 2