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Grinder · 20th August 2003, 09:37 AM

There is also this for only £45, but I haven't found a review yet.

JasonO · 20th August 2003, 10:36 AM

Peter,
I'll bet your PC is of some ****in amazin spec !!

Go to PC World, I know they are often not the cheapest, but you will be able to see all the available options from Pinnacle there. I seem to remember Pinnacle having a couple of lower budget versions too.

Did you get the analogue cables, or the docking station with the camera Peter ?

Grinder · 20th August 2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by JasonO
Go to PC World

..spit...Do yourself a favour, by all means view at PC world but buy on line, unless you are a complete incompetant you will be smarter than PC World tech supp.

(sorry - other opinions are available - please decide for yourself)

JasonO · 20th August 2003, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Grinder
..spit...Do yourself a favour

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonO
I know they are often not the cheapest

I was only trying to be Politically Correct

Grinder · 20th August 2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by JasonO
I was only trying to be Politically Correct

Yeah bud, I know, hence my partial retraction. I was a bit un PC about PC world

. They are well suited to a specific type of consumer. They will also price match I believe, if you have an on-line retailer near you.

Peter · 20th August 2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by JasonO
Peter,
I'll bet your PC is of some ****in amazin spec !!

Any spare cash has gone on car mods not PC mods. I built this one 3 years ago which may give you a clue as to it's spec...

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonO
Did you get the analogue cables, or the docking station with the camera Peter ?

Yes, got the docking station and all the cables. Will have a browse at PCW later...

Thanks guys.

Peter · 20th August 2003, 03:38 PM

Oh OK then, just for a laugh, it's got an AMD K6 350Mhz cpu, 3Dfx Banshee card, Quantum Fireball HDD and 128k RAM, see....

This is my office one, have a 2Ghz Dell at home although the difference in speed isn't that great.

aaronjb · 20th August 2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Peter
128k RAM

Good grief.. 128k.. Must be stuck in a timewarp of about 1987...

(Sorry, couldn't resist.. I know you meant 128Mb really)

Peter · 20th August 2003, 03:56 PM

Oops, well spotted, that's ZX Spectrum territory...

aaronjb · 20th August 2003, 03:58 PM

Ahh memories

..

I doubt you could even get DOS loaded into 128k (especially if it was organised as 4 pages of 32k like the Speccy), let alone Windows

Heck, XP has enough trouble with 128Mb

Grinder · 20th August 2003, 04:03 PM

Assuming you mean 128MB!

I think the Dell optiplex have on-board graphics which is crippling for performance. My P3 733 at home is far faster than my 1GHz Dell Optiplex at work, mainly due to the killer graphics card.

Your PC could well be OK for analog video capture, possibly at low resolution.

The size of the hard disk, or rather the amount of space is one thing to check. These cheaper video capture cards do not do compression on-the-fly like the higher-end cards so you will be recording uncompressed video onto the hard disk. Not sure exactly how much, but you might get 20 minutes onto a gig of space.

You need approx double that space because your edited video will be 'produced' onto the disk as well.

Peter · 20th August 2003, 04:08 PM

It's a 5gig drive with less a gig free. May be I should have a little clean up....

JasonO · 20th August 2003, 06:45 PM

Errr Peter........

Your going to struggle editing video on that spec of PC, time to look for some upgrade parts I think.

You should start by adding an obscene amount of memory.

Grinder · 20th August 2003, 07:44 PM

Jason you are right that it would be good to have a better spec, but started analog video capture on a 333Mhz Pentium 1 MMX with 64MB RAM and 4.3GB Quantum Bigfoot (which admittedly was a second drive just for the video data).

On a good day I would get VHS quality up to about 20 minutes with no dropped frames.

But spend approx £500 and you could get components to build a pretty good PC. Thats another topic I think.

JasonO · 20th August 2003, 08:54 PM

The biggest problem is bloat-ware, none of the recent versions of editing software are sufficiently small for that size system.

Notto worry though Peter, I have a few retro versions of various titles which I will pass on to you.

20th August 2003, 09:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
Grinder Grinder is lurking here GTROC Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 547	There is also this for only £45, but I haven't found a review yet. __________________

20th August 2003, 10:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
JasonO JasonO is absent. New Users Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Here, to stay. Cars owned: R33GTS25T Posts: 7,303	Peter, I'll bet your PC is of some ****in amazin spec !! Go to PC World, I know they are often not the cheapest, but you will be able to see all the available options from Pinnacle there. I seem to remember Pinnacle having a couple of lower budget versions too. Did you get the analogue cables, or the docking station with the camera Peter ? __________________

20th August 2003, 03:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
Peter Peter is unaware they can edit their status GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: East Sussex. Cars owned: E320 CDi Posts: 9,042	Oh OK then, just for a laugh, it's got an AMD K6 350Mhz cpu, 3Dfx Banshee card, Quantum Fireball HDD and 128k RAM, see.... This is my office one, have a 2Ghz Dell at home although the difference in speed isn't that great. __________________

20th August 2003, 03:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
Peter Peter is unaware they can edit their status GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: East Sussex. Cars owned: E320 CDi Posts: 9,042	Oops, well spotted, that's ZX Spectrum territory... __________________

20th August 2003, 03:58 PM	#25 (permalink)
aaronjb aaronjb is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Berkshire Cars owned: 1992 300ZX TT Posts: 69	Ahh memories .. I doubt you could even get DOS loaded into 128k (especially if it was organised as 4 pages of 32k like the Speccy), let alone Windows Heck, XP has enough trouble with 128Mb __________________

20th August 2003, 04:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
Grinder Grinder is lurking here GTROC Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 547	Assuming you mean 128MB! I think the Dell optiplex have on-board graphics which is crippling for performance. My P3 733 at home is far faster than my 1GHz Dell Optiplex at work, mainly due to the killer graphics card. Your PC could well be OK for analog video capture, possibly at low resolution. The size of the hard disk, or rather the amount of space is one thing to check. These cheaper video capture cards do not do compression on-the-fly like the higher-end cards so you will be recording uncompressed video onto the hard disk. Not sure exactly how much, but you might get 20 minutes onto a gig of space. You need approx double that space because your edited video will be 'produced' onto the disk as well. __________________

20th August 2003, 04:08 PM	#27 (permalink)
Peter Peter is unaware they can edit their status GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: East Sussex. Cars owned: E320 CDi Posts: 9,042	It's a 5gig drive with less a gig free. May be I should have a little clean up.... __________________

20th August 2003, 06:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
JasonO JasonO is absent. New Users Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Here, to stay. Cars owned: R33GTS25T Posts: 7,303	Errr Peter........ Your going to struggle editing video on that spec of PC, time to look for some upgrade parts I think. You should start by adding an obscene amount of memory. __________________

20th August 2003, 07:44 PM	#29 (permalink)
Grinder Grinder is lurking here GTROC Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex Cars owned: R32 GTR Posts: 547	Jason you are right that it would be good to have a better spec, but started analog video capture on a 333Mhz Pentium 1 MMX with 64MB RAM and 4.3GB Quantum Bigfoot (which admittedly was a second drive just for the video data). On a good day I would get VHS quality up to about 20 minutes with no dropped frames. But spend approx £500 and you could get components to build a pretty good PC. Thats another topic I think. __________________

20th August 2003, 08:54 PM	#30 (permalink)
JasonO JasonO is absent. New Users Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Here, to stay. Cars owned: R33GTS25T Posts: 7,303	The biggest problem is bloat-ware, none of the recent versions of editing software are sufficiently small for that size system. Notto worry though Peter, I have a few retro versions of various titles which I will pass on to you. __________________

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