Step By Step Guide To Swapping Telephone Microphone To Correct Side - Page 3 - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

David.Yu · 22nd June 2011, 02:10 PM

All the time by people who've fiddled and contributed to this subject is appreciated, but Gary Finney from Middlehurst had mine apart today to look at it and has officially declared this to be a red herring.

There is no official recall or technical bulletin on this subject and he resignedly says the GT-R Bluetooth system and mic is to blame for poor sound quality, not the position of the mic.

So not a very satisfactory answer, but equally, there is no point in loads of GT-R owners wasting loads of time (or technicians' time) trying this fix.

If someone can come up with objective, recorded before and after improvements from this mod, then great, but that doesn't seem forthcoming?

enshiu · 22nd June 2011, 02:13 PM

I know the MIC is bad quality made but, have you tried in the secret menu and test microphone function on your car? you can hear how awful it is.

Secret menu > audio off > hold menu and turn 20 clicks anti-clockwise with the audio button. JDM models need to turn 20 clicks clockwise.

Chris956 · 22nd June 2011, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David.Yu

All the time by people who've fiddled and contributed to this subject is appreciated, but Gary Finney from Middlehurst had mine apart today to look at it and has officially declared this to be a red herring.

There is no official recall or technical bulletin on this subject and he resignedly says the GT-R Bluetooth system and mic is to blame for poor sound quality, not the position of the mic.

So not a very satisfactory answer, but equally, there is no point in loads of GT-R owners wasting loads of time (or technicians' time) trying this fix.

If someone can come up with objective, recorded before and after improvements from this mod, then great, but that doesn't seem forthcoming?

I completely disagree with the fact it does not make it better. Whether there is a technical bulletin or not is neither here nor there.

The simple fact is that the microphone if on the left side Points AWAY from the driver. When moved to the right it POINTS AT THE DRIVER. I have tested both positions and the best sound is from the RIGHT side.

I cannot give you any technical specifications on the performance from each side , just real world testing talking on the phone.

It takes 2 minutes to do and if you choose to do it then fine. There is no pressure to do it.

All I can report is MY findings so you can make your own mind up.

David.Yu · 22nd June 2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris956

I completely disagree with the fact it does not make it better. Whether there is a technical bulletin or not is neither here nor there.

The simple fact is that the microphone if on the left side Points AWAY from the driver. When moved to the right it POINTS AT THE DRIVER. I have tested both positions and the best sound is from the RIGHT side.

I cannot give you any technical specifications on the performance from each side , just real world testing talking on the phone.

It takes 2 minutes to do and if you choose to do it then fine. There is no pressure to do it.

All I can report is MY findings so you can make your own mind up.

Totally agree, it is up to each person to decide. But don't be surprised if HPCs prove to be reluctant to do it. I'm only passing on the message from the senior servicing manager at Middlehurst, other HPCs may differ.

BTW, it wasn't because he didn't want to do it, as I said, he had mine in pieces when he phoned me.

Chris956 · 22nd June 2011, 06:24 PM

You should have got him to test each position whilst on the phone to you. Or at least talk into the microphone rather than talk in it's general direction !

ROG350Z · 28th August 2011, 11:49 AM

Ok - people hate me not being able to hear them and I spend a lot of time on the phone (yes David I know I talk a lot). Has anyone found a better microphone which can be retro fitted or noise cancelling version. I assume software based noise cancelling mic but a better quality one can't be more than £20 for a really good one perhaps with foam covering to reduce extraneous wind and traffic noise similar to outside TV broadcast. Or are there any further Bluetooth firmware or software updates?

Stevie76 · 28th August 2011, 11:54 AM

I forgot all about this....thanks for resurrecting Rog....post GP task I think to swap it over.

ROG350Z · 28th August 2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevie76

I forgot all about this....thanks for resurrecting Rog....post GP task I think to swap it over.

Agreed I may have a crack tomorrow and source a good quality mic from somewhere tomorrow.

David.Yu · 28th August 2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris956

You should have got him to test each position whilst on the phone to you. Or at least talk into the microphone rather than talk in it's general direction !

I hadn't thought any more about this since Gary told me it wasn't worth doing, but recently I had a passenger in my car who used my phone to make a call and he had no problem talking for quite a while at high-ish speed.

He didn't even have to raise his voice and his wife seemed to hear him quite clearly!
So although hardly a comprehensive test, it did seem to suggest that pick up does work better from the passenger seat.

I've never been able to make a call from the driver's seat without raising my voice and at high road speed, forget it.

Chris956 · 28th August 2011, 06:02 PM

All I know is that I swapped mine and now it works far better and well worthwhile doing.

ROG350Z · 28th August 2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris956

All I know is that I swapped mine and now it works far better and well worthwhile doing.

Bank Holiday Monday project then - and then the search for a better Mic if possible!

sumo69 · 28th August 2011, 06:54 PM

..another item to add to my to-do list!!

D

ROG350Z · 24th September 2011, 03:24 PM

Has anybody found a better replacement microphone option or used better acoustic matting perhaps to cut background noise?

Every little helps as car kit is awful still (as are people talking to me through the speakers still)

MrMartin · 18th October 2011, 03:07 AM

cool Chris u deserve the praise!

dinny · 3rd November 2011, 11:06 PM

Chris i started this job this evening,carried out the instructions to move the mike over,prob i came up when i went to install the unit back up,

the mike seems to be stopping fitting the light unit back up properly. i think i will have to file some of the body holder to move the mike

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Chris956 Chris956 is 420bhp RWD is interesting in the rain :-0 GTR Register User Join Date: Apr 2010 Cars owned: From GTR To GT3 Posts: 1,663	You should have got him to test each position whilst on the phone to you. Or at least talk into the microphone rather than talk in it's general direction ! __________________

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ROG350Z ROG350Z is looking forward to N24! GTROC Board Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London/Darlington Cars owned: GT-R R35 MY'10 Posts: 2,133	Ok - people hate me not being able to hear them and I spend a lot of time on the phone (yes David I know I talk a lot). Has anyone found a better microphone which can be retro fitted or noise cancelling version. I assume software based noise cancelling mic but a better quality one can't be more than £20 for a really good one perhaps with foam covering to reduce extraneous wind and traffic noise similar to outside TV broadcast. Or are there any further Bluetooth firmware or software updates? __________________ Vice Chairman - GTR Owners Club MY'10 R35 GT-R. GTC Titan 90MM Exhaust, Litchfield Cast Downpipes, Litchfield Bosch 1,100cc Injectors, Litchfield Large Bore Intakes, Litchfield ECUTek Stage Four Tune with MY12 Gearbox Software. AP Racing Slotted Disks all round with Carbotech XP8 Pads. GTC 4 Way Light Kit, Knight Racer CD Carbon Rear Spoiler, Carbon Wrapped Lowers, Carbon Blue/Black Valet Magic Wheels.

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Chris956 Chris956 is 420bhp RWD is interesting in the rain :-0 GTR Register User Join Date: Apr 2010 Cars owned: From GTR To GT3 Posts: 1,663	All I know is that I swapped mine and now it works far better and well worthwhile doing. __________________

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sumo69 sumo69 is now Stage 4 and MY12 software GTROC Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,148	..another item to add to my to-do list!! D __________________

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ROG350Z ROG350Z is looking forward to N24! GTROC Board Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London/Darlington Cars owned: GT-R R35 MY'10 Posts: 2,133	Has anybody found a better replacement microphone option or used better acoustic matting perhaps to cut background noise? Every little helps as car kit is awful still (as are people talking to me through the speakers still) __________________ Vice Chairman - GTR Owners Club MY'10 R35 GT-R. GTC Titan 90MM Exhaust, Litchfield Cast Downpipes, Litchfield Bosch 1,100cc Injectors, Litchfield Large Bore Intakes, Litchfield ECUTek Stage Four Tune with MY12 Gearbox Software. AP Racing Slotted Disks all round with Carbotech XP8 Pads. GTC 4 Way Light Kit, Knight Racer CD Carbon Rear Spoiler, Carbon Wrapped Lowers, Carbon Blue/Black Valet Magic Wheels.

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MrMartin MrMartin is unaware they can edit their status New Users Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4	cool Chris u deserve the praise! __________________

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dinny dinny is CLUB MEMBER GTR Register User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CORK IRELAND Posts: 64	Chris i started this job this evening,carried out the instructions to move the mike over,prob i came up when i went to install the unit back up, the mike seems to be stopping fitting the light unit back up properly. i think i will have to file some of the body holder to move the mike __________________

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