Who puts the trans in Neutral at the lights?

[DWC]

uhh i dont believe iv ever used Neutral. Straight from P to D for 2 years with no probs.

[MD7]

Only 2 days into ownership of my 1st GT-R and already got my first top tip from this forum. Never had anything but manual cars before, so this sort of thing is all new.

[anilj]

Assuming you dont put in Neutral, how long is the typical life of the dual-clutch then? Has anyone so far had to replace their clutch for normal wear and tear without the car being tracked...

[Guy]

Personally I doubt the wear whilst stationary is significant, it is a wet-plate clutch, so wear will be a lot lower.

There are many manufacturers who make cars with these type of gearboxes and not a single one recommends you use neutral when stopped. Obviously if you are going to be stationary for a long-time it makes sense, but I only ever did it to rest my foot.

No-one has yet had any instances of clutch wear or replacement anywhere in the world as far as I can tell, so this just seems a bit crazy to me. What next -advising GTR owners not to wear their tyres so much by cornering slower and to save brakes by braking gently. Seriously guys, if you're worried about clutch-wear at the traffic lights then you've bought the wrong cars

[MidLifeCrisis]

Far as I can see from exploded views, the GR6 uses virtually identical clutch packs to a typical auto trans. Given clean cool oil these last almost indefinitely. IMHO clutch pack ware in gear at lights will be insignificant.

[GTRSTAR]

Originally Posted by Guy

Personally I doubt the wear whilst stationary is significant, it is a wet-plate clutch, so wear will be a lot lower.

There are many manufacturers who make cars with these type of gearboxes and not a single one recommends you use neutral when stopped. Obviously if you are going to be stationary for a long-time it makes sense, but I only ever did it to rest my foot.

No-one has yet had any instances of clutch wear or replacement anywhere in the world as far as I can tell, so this just seems a bit crazy to me. What next -advising GTR owners not to wear their tyres so much by cornering slower and to save brakes by braking gently. Seriously guys, if you're worried about clutch-wear at the traffic lights then you've bought the wrong cars

I don't think it's a case of buying the wrong car, it's a case of being "mechanically sympathetic"

Now, who wants to buy Guys car when he's finished with it?... Anyone?!

[BHopper]

In my experience, when you have your foot on the brake, at stand still, it completely disengages the clutches.

I have to "creep" the GTR into a very narrow garage, and on the several occasions that I come to a stop, and then take my foot off the brake to continue, it takes half a second or so to re-engage the clutches and start creeping forward.

I agree with Guy...unless you need to rest your foot, there is no damage to be done by keeping in D with your foot on the brake.

Ben.

[David.Yu]

Originally Posted by BHopper

In my experience, when you have your foot on the brake, at stand still, it completely disengages the clutches.

I have to "creep" the GTR into a very narrow garage, and on the several occasions that I come to a stop, and then take my foot off the brake to continue, it takes half a second or so to re-engage the clutches and start creeping forward.

I agree with Guy...unless you need to rest your foot, there is no damage to be done by keeping in D with your foot on the brake.

Ben.

This. The clutch is automatically disengaged when the foot brake is applied, so no appreciable wear can occur. Not sure about if the handbrake is applied though, so maybe that's not such a good idea.

BTW, Guy sold his ages ago and hasn't stopped moaning about the GT-R since!

[KingOfTheGT-R]

Originally Posted by David.Yu

This. The clutch is automatically disengaged when the foot brake is applied, so no appreciable wear can occur. Not sure about if the handbrake is applied though, so maybe that's not such a good idea.

BTW, Guy sold his ages ago and hasn't stopped moaning about the GT-R since!

Would that apply to all models or just 11's and up?

[Guy]

Originally Posted by David.Yu

BTW, Guy sold his ages ago and hasn't stopped moaning about the GT-R since!

Very true.

It was one of the greatest cars I've ever owned and the best all-rounder in the world IMHO, but that doesn't stop me moaning about a few stupid basic things they should have dealt with better, namely the overheating and the servicing (which seem at last to have been made better on the 2011s).

Hey David, in this thread I'm on Nissans side!

[enshiu]

What about the OEM clutch seals that breaks?

Has anyone had an issue with it?

[OldBob]

Longer than 10 sec - N. old habit no downside..?

[sidepipe]

Personally I've previously always used the handbrake when I stop in manual cars, though it seems I'm in the minority... I must say doing that makes it very difficult to creep forwards at the lights which seems to be an essential part of the highway code

It seems even the manufacturers frown on the handbrake these days, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nissan made it compulsory to sit with your foot on the brake rather than using that evil device, unless of course you put the car in neutral.

[mickv]

A while back I recall a post form Thistle that said the clutch is automatically disengaged when you depress the brake in first. But, if you sit at the lights in first, depress the brake and then select N, there is a definite increase in tick over revs, suggesting less friction in the drivetrain somewhere. So, I tend to select N, but I suspect it makes little difference. Has anyone checked what the manual says ?

[enshiu]

I use N + handbrake at hill traffic lights. Anyone handbrake LC?