Who puts the trans in Neutral at the lights? - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

maxzugkraft · 25th June 2011, 12:17 PM

Should we pop the trans into Neutral when we are temporarily stopped at the traffic lights?
Would this reduce wear and tear on the clutch and tranmission?
Or would it be more harmful to be flicking from N to D to N to D to........
The car has a dialled in creep when idling, which means the clutch must be partially engaged.

T80 GTR · 25th June 2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by maxzugkraft

Should we pop the trans into Neutral when we are temporarily stopped at the traffic lights?
Would this reduce wear and tear on the clutch and tranmission?
Or would it be more harmful to be flicking from N to D to N to D to........
The car has a dialled in creep when idling, which means the clutch must be partially engaged.

I pop mine in N when waiting for lights etc..

enshiu · 25th June 2011, 12:47 PM

<1min keep in D

>1min put in N as clutch plate can burn as it is partially is engaged.

KingOfTheGT-R · 25th June 2011, 01:26 PM

Hmmm maybe i should put mine in neutral? i always keep my foot on the brake and get off fast.

Stevie76 · 25th June 2011, 02:02 PM

I stick mine in neutral if going to be sitting there for any more than 10/15 seconds...

Austin · 25th June 2011, 02:12 PM

Yeah, if I'm going to be waiting a while I put it in Neutral. It does make a hell of a clunk going back into Drive sometimes....the whole car moves!

bobel · 25th June 2011, 02:23 PM

Was often wondering this myself, the mighty clunk always put me off as despite the fact that the clunks are normal you never get a clunk where something is not getting worn, does the trade off between clutch wear and D-N-D clunk pay off??? Personally I don't know enough about the GR6 to decide??? but the clutches are technically a consumable even though they have an extremely long life, but I do agreed for a long term stop it theoretical makes sence to shift to N to save the clutch, or alternatively dial out the creep and live with a slightly jumpy pull off (probalby not good for GR6 either)

So in summary I haven't a clue!!!

MidLifeCrisis · 25th June 2011, 02:35 PM

I stay in gear with hand brake on believing the lack of flywheel / bell housing rattle is preferable. MY11 appears to sense engine idle after a few moments, and relaxes the clutch packs. May just be my cars trans set up? No idea

ROG350Z · 25th June 2011, 02:48 PM

Always into N as whole car seems to drop 'tension' (odd but best way I can describe).

As long as you dont put into drive with foot off brake it doesn't 'thud' back in too badly?

GTRSTAR · 25th June 2011, 03:01 PM

Neutral when stopped.

KingOfTheGT-R · 25th June 2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MidLifeCrisis

I stay in gear with hand brake on believing the lack of flywheel / bell housing rattle is preferable. MY11 appears to sense engine idle after a few moments, and relaxes the clutch packs. May just be my cars trans set up? No idea

Id imagine so... it could have be revised as they knew little things like this called cause problems on the old models and they didn't want it to affect new models?

enshiu · 25th June 2011, 03:29 PM

neutral when stopped at traffic light, parked longer than 1min, working on the car while car is running.

MidLifeCrisis · 25th June 2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfTheGT-R

Id imagine so... it could have be revised as they knew little things like this called cause problems on the old models and they didn't want it to affect new models?

Quite possibly yes, my car is happy sitting in gear at lights, and there is little if any idle creep. Does not lump into gear either, can't really tell you shifted from N to D.

countvonc · 25th June 2011, 09:28 PM

I thought that if you had your foot on the brake that it disengaged the clutch.

GTRSTAR · 25th June 2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by countvonc

I thought that if you had your foot on the brake that it disengaged the clutch.

In theory it does, however in a high powered car the clutch settings need to be higher to prevent it from slipping, therefore it's best to engage neutral to stop unnecessary wear on the clutch, especially if stopping for a prolonged period in traffic.

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