Hello Everyone!
We finally got the highly anticipated ETS-Pro Center Diff Torque Split Controller for R32 R33 R34 Skyline GT-R
The ETS-Pro is engineered specifically for use with the R32, R33 and R34 Skyline GT-R. Designed to give you complete control over Nissan's multiplate transfer case. The ETS-Pro makes it easy to adjust active torque split percentages and also allows you switch from 4wd -> 2wd on the fly, and all points in between.
FAQ Located HERE
Installation details located HERE
-The ATESSA-ETS primary solenoid is remarkably similar to the Subaru STI solenoid in terms of control and response/output. However, the GT-R has a lot more amperage draw than the Subaru and if we keep a low base pressure of ~20+psi, the response is instantaneous and can hit 250psi in less than a second...maybe tenths of a second even. This is much quicker than anything else that has been tested previously. This is 21 year old R32 GTR atessa pump, from a salvage yard, 100k KM on it. Response times are noticeably faster than the factory system. If the solenoid takes the pressure down too low there is a large amount of lag present in the system, which is what the stock ecu allows for and why everyone complains about "delay" in the stock system. We believe most aftermarket torque split controllers and other tricks to the stock system served to "trick" the factory computer and make it retain pressure in the system, reducing lag.
-The new ETS-Pro firmware was designed to hold a bit of pressure at the bottom end to reduce system lag, and tuning the max top end to produce a hair more than full lockup of the clutchpack. If allowed, the pump can produce up to ~350psi+ instantly which is interesting (scary) on the least! I'm not sure what you guys have been able to do with the modified stock system but I was surprised that a hydraulic system go from nothing to basically 240psi in less than a few tenths of a second with some clever programming.
-After charting the curve of duty cycle vs pressure, it is very manageable and we can get an amazing resolution from the ETS-Pro maps (It can control the pressure to approx. 0.83 psi increments.)
-both R32 and R33 GTR ATESSA pumps were tested and we found virtually zero difference in performance between the pumps or solenoid. The computer and firmware/algorithms is the real difference.
-ETS-Pro can be in Manual mode which controls pressure directly off the knob setting, OR auto mode which uses the tps and g-sensors working off the algorithm and the knob for "gain". The Auto mode is able to respond immediately with very little lag and very precise pressure control....so far we're excited how well it is working as it is clearly exceeding the performance of the STI pump/solenoid that is typically modified.
-USB tuning will work but most setups can use 'Auto mode' and work entirely off of the "gain knob" (this is what we are doing at Full-Race)
some questions we've received from other forum members:
1) Q: where can i mount the unit? i noticed your instructions do not reference mounting dead center in the chassis (you suggest up near the firewall) however nissan's manual does - for example can i mount the unit in the left corner of the trunk? not that i want to, but just asking. I do understand the arrows and wires must face forwards of course
A: The control box itself could be mounted pretty much anywhere, we recommend that the g-sensor module get mounted in the physical center of the car for turning calculations. Same location as the stock unit is ideal right above the transmission (mine will be installed inside the car to protect it). The cable from the box to the g-sensor is about a meter. 2 part epoxy is required for the G-sensor, DO NOT USE TAPE
2) Q: how do you wire the pump? anything in particular to note?
A: The pump will get wired to ignition switched power and of course an included relay to control the pump. Wiring Details will be updated by May 1st
To place an order Please e-mail Jon@Full-Race.com with your full name and address, and screen name on gtr.co.uk - He will then get you an estimate with the total cost with shipping.
All the units will be shipping out via FedEx
If you have any questions let us know. This thread also holds a lot of info.
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/150416-upgraded-programable-faster-attessa-ecu.html
Thank you
We finally got the highly anticipated ETS-Pro Center Diff Torque Split Controller for R32 R33 R34 Skyline GT-R
The ETS-Pro is engineered specifically for use with the R32, R33 and R34 Skyline GT-R. Designed to give you complete control over Nissan's multiplate transfer case. The ETS-Pro makes it easy to adjust active torque split percentages and also allows you switch from 4wd -> 2wd on the fly, and all points in between.
FAQ Located HERE
Installation details located HERE
-The ATESSA-ETS primary solenoid is remarkably similar to the Subaru STI solenoid in terms of control and response/output. However, the GT-R has a lot more amperage draw than the Subaru and if we keep a low base pressure of ~20+psi, the response is instantaneous and can hit 250psi in less than a second...maybe tenths of a second even. This is much quicker than anything else that has been tested previously. This is 21 year old R32 GTR atessa pump, from a salvage yard, 100k KM on it. Response times are noticeably faster than the factory system. If the solenoid takes the pressure down too low there is a large amount of lag present in the system, which is what the stock ecu allows for and why everyone complains about "delay" in the stock system. We believe most aftermarket torque split controllers and other tricks to the stock system served to "trick" the factory computer and make it retain pressure in the system, reducing lag.
-The new ETS-Pro firmware was designed to hold a bit of pressure at the bottom end to reduce system lag, and tuning the max top end to produce a hair more than full lockup of the clutchpack. If allowed, the pump can produce up to ~350psi+ instantly which is interesting (scary) on the least! I'm not sure what you guys have been able to do with the modified stock system but I was surprised that a hydraulic system go from nothing to basically 240psi in less than a few tenths of a second with some clever programming.
-After charting the curve of duty cycle vs pressure, it is very manageable and we can get an amazing resolution from the ETS-Pro maps (It can control the pressure to approx. 0.83 psi increments.)
-both R32 and R33 GTR ATESSA pumps were tested and we found virtually zero difference in performance between the pumps or solenoid. The computer and firmware/algorithms is the real difference.
-ETS-Pro can be in Manual mode which controls pressure directly off the knob setting, OR auto mode which uses the tps and g-sensors working off the algorithm and the knob for "gain". The Auto mode is able to respond immediately with very little lag and very precise pressure control....so far we're excited how well it is working as it is clearly exceeding the performance of the STI pump/solenoid that is typically modified.
-USB tuning will work but most setups can use 'Auto mode' and work entirely off of the "gain knob" (this is what we are doing at Full-Race)
some questions we've received from other forum members:
1) Q: where can i mount the unit? i noticed your instructions do not reference mounting dead center in the chassis (you suggest up near the firewall) however nissan's manual does - for example can i mount the unit in the left corner of the trunk? not that i want to, but just asking. I do understand the arrows and wires must face forwards of course
A: The control box itself could be mounted pretty much anywhere, we recommend that the g-sensor module get mounted in the physical center of the car for turning calculations. Same location as the stock unit is ideal right above the transmission (mine will be installed inside the car to protect it). The cable from the box to the g-sensor is about a meter. 2 part epoxy is required for the G-sensor, DO NOT USE TAPE
2) Q: how do you wire the pump? anything in particular to note?
A: The pump will get wired to ignition switched power and of course an included relay to control the pump. Wiring Details will be updated by May 1st
To place an order Please e-mail Jon@Full-Race.com with your full name and address, and screen name on gtr.co.uk - He will then get you an estimate with the total cost with shipping.
All the units will be shipping out via FedEx
If you have any questions let us know. This thread also holds a lot of info.
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/150416-upgraded-programable-faster-attessa-ecu.html
Thank you