Considering a GTR, but is it too good?

[FLYNN]

Originally Posted by Caveman

Really?? The standard brakes are huuuuge! Isn't it just a case of whacking in some decent high temp fluid and a set of XP12s?

Mart.

New rotors and pads mate, you'll be fine. I believe the AP rotors are cheaper than the oem equivalent. No need to change the calipers in my eyes unless you're going balls out or like the bling

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by grahamc

Standard discs are prone to cracking when used heavily.

You are talking about adding 50% more power! Brake improvements are a must

So all I'd need are pads then, until the standard discs begin to crack? No point throwing them away until then I'm guessing?

M.

[Mini-E]

Aston Vantage - No rear seats

Aston DBS - Too fancy and GT for me

Audi R8 - No rear seats

Fezzas - Don't do it for me, sorry

Jag - Too GT, autobox only

Masers - Too GT, heavy, too showy, slow

Lotus - Not a fan

Lambo - Too expensive to run, would be an old Gallardo

Vettes - no rear seats, left hooker only

Your forgetting one; Porsche 911 GT3

You do realise the GT3 is a 2 seater?

So its looking more and more like a GTR for you...

Ps; id still take the GT3, infact id actually take a manual f430, i think these are the 'type' of cars you crave

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by Mini-E

Your forgetting one; Porsche 911 GT3

You do realise the GT3 is a 2 seater?

So its looking more and more like a GTR for you...

Ps; id still take the GT3, infact id actually take a manual f430, i think these are the 'type' of cars you crave

The GT3 is the only other car I'm considering as per my first post. You can easily get rear belts retrofitted in a non RS version, as they have the same body and floorpan as a normal Carrera with the mounting points still there.

Mart.

[Mini-E]

Originally Posted by Caveman

The GT3 is the only other car I'm considering as per my first post. You can easily get rear belts retrofitted in a non RS version, as they have the same body and floorpan as a normal Carrera with the mounting points still there.

Mart.

Yes, i believe it is possible. A 4 seater GT3 is a perfect idea, i would seriously consider one.... but

It will sound a bit iffy to an insurance company;

"So, iv retro-fitted some rear seat belts and rear seats so i can carry my children in my hard core performance 911", a car built as a two seater. Yes, it shares the same platform as a regular 911, but was built by porsche as a 2 seater, this could raise some safety issues.

I dont know, it probably would be fine, and it has been done before, but dont know if it was ever done in the UK

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by Mini-E

Yes, i believe it is possible. A 4 seater GT3 is a perfect idea, i would seriously consider one.... but

It will sound a bit iffy to an insurance company;

"So, iv retro-fitted some rear seat belts and rear seats so i can carry my children in my hard core performance 911", a car built as a two seater. Yes, it shares the same platform as a regular 911, but was built by porsche as a 2 seater, this could raise some safety issues.

I dont know, it probably would be fine, and it has been done before, but dont know if it was ever done in the UK

Yes it's done quite regularly tbh. I have spoken to a seatbelt specialist and a Porsche specialist who have experience of doing this to UK cars. Some insurers are iffy, others see it as a simple modification as long as it's done by a recognised professional.

Scroll half-way down the page:

Seat Belt Gallery | Porsche Seat Belts – Quick Fit SBS Ltd

M.

[FLYNN]

I wouldn't be putting my little one in the back of there! It would always play on my mind even if it was as good as standard.

Plus the insurance companies can be a pain if it comes to a payout. Buy the Turbo S

[Mini-E]

Originally Posted by Caveman

Yes it's done quite regularly tbh. I have spoken to a seatbelt specialist and a Porsche specialist who have experience of doing this to UK cars. Some insurers are iffy, others see it as a simple modification as long as it's done by a recognised professional.

Scroll half-way down the page:

Seat Belt Gallery | Porsche Seat Belts – Quick Fit SBS Ltd

M.

Its certainly something to consider. I also have a daughter, so always interested in the 2+2's... carry on

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by FLYNN

I wouldn't be putting my little one in the back of there! It would always play on my mind even if it was as good as standard.

Plus the insurance companies can be a pain if it comes to a payout. Buy the Turbo S

It has the same shell as a 4 seater 911, so it's no different, 100% identical. All you're doing is buying the OEM belts, trim and fixings from Porsche and fitting them after the car has left the factory. You don't need to 'modify' the car in any way, they just bolt in as standard.

[peterpeter]

tough choice..

Ive had both albeit the GT3 was a Mk1

Totally depends on how you use the car- If you want a daily driver road car for occasional track use..get a GTR- there is nothing better IMO.- plus if you need it to be properly practical..- the GT3 simply is not.

I would only by a GT3 as a second or third car if I had enough time to do plenty of track days..yes initially the GT3 is noisier/ more visceral and being manual has that extra feeling of involvement...but the GTR seriously gets under your skin and really 30 mins is not enough to even get a whiff of it..it takes 2-3 days to really get the car and even then it will still surprise you.

Overall IMO these two cars are the best combination if you can afford a pair...but
if its your daily driver, get the GTR

if you are tracking it and its a weekend special get the GT3...

Either way you wont regret it..

IMO- Id get a GTR 09 for £40 k and a MK2 GT3 for £40

[grahamc]

Originally Posted by peterpeter

tough choice..

Ive had both albeit the GT3 was a Mk1

Totally depends on how you use the car- If you want a daily driver road car for occasional track use..get a GTR- there is nothing better IMO.- plus if you need it to be properly practical..- the GT3 simply is not.

I would only by a GT3 as a second or third car if I had enough time to do plenty of track days..yes initially the GT3 is noisier/ more visceral and being manual has that extra feeling of involvement...but the GTR seriously gets under your skin and really 30 mins is not enough to even get a whiff of it..it takes 2-3 days to really get the car and even then it will still surprise you.

Overall IMO these two cars are the best combination if you can afford a pair...but
if its your daily driver, get the GTR

if you are tracking it and its a weekend special get the GT3...

Either way you wont regret it..

IMO- Id get a GTR 09 for £40 k and a MK2 GT3 for £40

Completely agree with what you said and I really like your thinking

[David.Yu]

You mentioned being concerned about getting bored. Well it is impossible to get bored of the GT-R, because there is a never-ending journey of modding to enjoy! Far more so than the GT3 or any other Porsche.

BTW, if modding wasn't allowed, it would be a lot closer, as a standard GT-R is almost too perfectly balanced between grip and power and far too quiet to be exciting.
Thankfully modding is allowed...

[Caveman]

The car will be my 3rd car, as I have a classic impreza wagon for work, and the RS6 as the family distance eater. The new car is only for weekend road use, occasional family outings and trips to Le Mans etc. I think I'd be too scared to take either car on track for the fear of bending it.

Someone want to loan me their car for a weekend!?

[CT17]

As I said further up the thread, you can hire one for a weekend for a few grand.
Much cheaper than buying the wrong car...

[laitm001]

My advice is don't buy a GTR! It's so good you can't actually drive the car without speeding 100% of the time :-)

Basically it's like being addicted to a class A substance, and then you get an extra hit when the tuning starts. If caught - both have the potential to ruin your life very quickly.