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Jez · 20th May 2002, 12:38 PM

Guys,

I know this has been covered before but as the search function doesn't work I can't find the old threads covering this.

I'm trying to find out which is the best Octane Booster to use.
I am going to Le Mans in June and am unsure how good the fuel is in France and what I should be using.

Anyone know a good Octane booster and what RON the fuel is in France.

Cost is not so important, I just want the one that will give the most poke

(and least det

)

I'm sure I saw Ian SuttoN1 flogging bottles of something at the Grasshopper.
Got any left ?

Jez

Philip · 20th May 2002, 01:01 PM

Plenty of 98 RON in France. Is this the stuff you're thinking of - http://www.nitrous-formula.com ?

Phil

Jez · 20th May 2002, 02:04 PM

Philip,

Thanks,

that's the kind of stuff I am looking for.

Also how is the fuel labelled in France, i.e what is french for normal and Super ( I presume super is 98 RON ).

Look forward to having a few beers in France.

Jez

Smootster73 · 20th May 2002, 03:53 PM

I can get hold of some millers stuff from the 200+ club.
I have been meaning to get some if you want to share a box load.
Send me a pm mate or give me a shout.

Nick

Scott J Davies · 20th May 2002, 04:08 PM

Hi Jez

The Stuff that Ian was selling is NF IMHO it is the best I have tired 5 other types it is the only one where I have truely FELT a difference. It apparently cam out tops on independent tests.

Try it!!

SJD

keith · 20th May 2002, 04:59 PM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THOUGHT I WOULD POST THIS AGAIN SO THAT EVERYONE
CAN SEE IT

well i spoke to the chemist guy from millars today
and he told me if i was to use the CVL with our 97 super plus
it takes it up a full 3 points =100 octane fuel

the only thing it is more money to buy and
it only does 20L instead of 40L

cant wait till the optimax comes to aberdeen
98.6 + CVL = 101.6 THE POODLES NOODLES

THE VSP AND THE OCTANE PLUS ARE OK BUT NOTHING
LIKE THE CVL
£4.00 PER BOTTLE

KEITH

TOKYO · 20th May 2002, 05:06 PM

Yep agree.

Don't go too fast Jez or people won't be able to see your rims properly

.

glen

Rupert · 20th May 2002, 06:34 PM

These guys do a good brew in a can. It's around £7 a pop and one can does 2 tank fulls. You can buy it on line and get it delivered right to your door for free.

It's called:

Silkolene Octane Pro-Boost.

Rupert

Mycroft · 20th May 2002, 07:03 PM

This Millars stuff, is it a 'real' octane booster or a 'Knock sensor fooler'

I ask because here at the Institute we have conducted a lot of tests on 'Octane enhancers' Not one actually does 'what it says on the can' except by only the thinnest of margins. The best result was an improvement of 0.59 of an octane. (about the same as the pump tolerance)

What we did find was that the 'better' ones changed the properties of the 'knock' and this fooled the engines sensors into thinking all was OK.

We found the only viable (and not very at that) alternative was Toluene, mixed at 9 parts pump fuel 1 part Toluene, this gave about 4% increase in power at the flywheel, across the rev range.

Could you point me in the direction of the formula or something similar?

alex h · 20th May 2002, 07:50 PM

Anything in a bottle smaller than a can of coke can't really do anything for your octane rating IMO.

Toluene...is THE way of boosting Octane 10:1 mix is what I've been recommended but it depends on how good your ECU is at adapting to it.

Proboost and Millers just can't compare....only problem is that Toluene is not allowed to be bought as fuel. So you just say you want it for thinning paint or degreasing. Try Albion Chemicals...I think they are nationaly based...they took over Hays Chemicals.

Its cheaper than Fuel! I bought 75L for about £45...I think...I have family in the trade...it always helps!!

Scott J Davies · 20th May 2002, 09:33 PM

Have used Millers and Silkolene and many others. NF is the only product where I have felt results.

In an independent test of 10 boosters it came out on top, it can give up to 6 ron at only 15mls per litre.

Take a Pepsi challenge, trust me you won't be disappointed.

Oh and I don't sell this either etc, just my experience. NOS make a booster which is meant to be pretty tasty as well.

SJD

Fuggles · 20th May 2002, 10:51 PM

Don't forget, if you leave fuel in the tank for a few days it can lose up to 2 RON.

Not sure how long it has to saty and under what conditions but worth bearing in mind if you are going to get serious about this stuff.

I like the sound of Toluene, but how critical is it in getting the mixture right?

John

Smootster73 · 21st May 2002, 07:33 AM

if any of you fellows wants some Octance booster then I can get a box of 10 bottles for a good price. Works out around 3 pounds a bottle.
Just don't ask me to deliver it. It is the millers stuff BTW
See you when I see you.
Send me a pm as opposed to replying to board post.
Nick

Jez · 21st May 2002, 09:21 AM

Glen,

I think you have the answer !

If I drive really slow everyone will see my wheels and I won't need Octane Booster

Thanks for all your help guys, I'll probably get some booster of some sort just to be on the safe side, I think Toluene is carcinogenic though so I may avoid that one.

Jez

Smootster73 · 21st May 2002, 09:26 AM

you probably thin the car is flying and if you think so then it will!!
I just want to use it to make sure that I have no issues with det on the rollers when the car and air temp is going up as more cars get in there and warm up the ambient temp.
Better safe than sorry.

20th May 2002, 12:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jez Jez has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Coast Cars owned: 550+ Apexi Tuned GTR Posts: 338	Octane Booster Guys, I know this has been covered before but as the search function doesn't work I can't find the old threads covering this. I'm trying to find out which is the best Octane Booster to use. I am going to Le Mans in June and am unsure how good the fuel is in France and what I should be using. Anyone know a good Octane booster and what RON the fuel is in France. Cost is not so important, I just want the one that will give the most poke (and least det ) I'm sure I saw Ian SuttoN1 flogging bottles of something at the Grasshopper. Got any left ? Jez __________________

20th May 2002, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Philip Philip has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,988	Plenty of 98 RON in France. Is this the stuff you're thinking of - http://www.nitrous-formula.com ? Phil __________________

20th May 2002, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jez Jez has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Coast Cars owned: 550+ Apexi Tuned GTR Posts: 338	Philip, Thanks, that's the kind of stuff I am looking for. Also how is the fuel labelled in France, i.e what is french for normal and Super ( I presume super is 98 RON ). Look forward to having a few beers in France. Jez __________________

20th May 2002, 03:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Smootster73 Smootster73 has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still Waxing the Dolphin probably! Cars owned: Don't ask!! Posts: 1,757	Jez I can get hold of some millers stuff from the 200+ club. I have been meaning to get some if you want to share a box load. Send me a pm mate or give me a shout. Nick __________________

20th May 2002, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott J Davies Scott J Davies has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Altrincham Cars owned: M3 SMGII Posts: 248	Hi Jez The Stuff that Ian was selling is NF IMHO it is the best I have tired 5 other types it is the only one where I have truely FELT a difference. It apparently cam out tops on independent tests. Try it!! SJD __________________

20th May 2002, 04:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
keith keith has no status. Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ABERDEEN Cars owned: 3L OS Giken / Very big single Posts: 2,592	MILLARS CVL IS THE BEST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOUGHT I WOULD POST THIS AGAIN SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT well i spoke to the chemist guy from millars today and he told me if i was to use the CVL with our 97 super plus it takes it up a full 3 points =100 octane fuel the only thing it is more money to buy and it only does 20L instead of 40L cant wait till the optimax comes to aberdeen 98.6 + CVL = 101.6 THE POODLES NOODLES THE VSP AND THE OCTANE PLUS ARE OK BUT NOTHING LIKE THE CVL £4.00 PER BOTTLE KEITH __________________

20th May 2002, 05:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
TOKYO TOKYO has no status. GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bordering Insanity Cars owned: TIME ATTACK VERSION Posts: 3,471	Millars Yep agree. Don't go too fast Jez or people won't be able to see your rims properly . glen __________________

20th May 2002, 06:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rupert Rupert has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chiswick, London Cars owned: Ferrari 360 Spider, 700bhp+ Nissan Skyline GTR-33 Posts: 492	Demon Tweaks These guys do a good brew in a can. It's around £7 a pop and one can does 2 tank fulls. You can buy it on line and get it delivered right to your door for free. It's called: Silkolene Octane Pro-Boost. Rupert __________________

20th May 2002, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mycroft Mycroft has no status. Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Up someones nose, apparently Cars owned: Black Bentley Posts: 3,561	Don't bite me please. This Millars stuff, is it a 'real' octane booster or a 'Knock sensor fooler' I ask because here at the Institute we have conducted a lot of tests on 'Octane enhancers' Not one actually does 'what it says on the can' except by only the thinnest of margins. The best result was an improvement of 0.59 of an octane. (about the same as the pump tolerance) What we did find was that the 'better' ones changed the properties of the 'knock' and this fooled the engines sensors into thinking all was OK. We found the only viable (and not very at that) alternative was Toluene, mixed at 9 parts pump fuel 1 part Toluene, this gave about 4% increase in power at the flywheel, across the rev range. Could you point me in the direction of the formula or something similar? __________________ Last edited by Mycroft; 20th May 2002 at 07:10 PM..

20th May 2002, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
alex h alex h has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: East of England Cars owned: 1998 RSP VVTi Supra Posts: 426	Anything in a bottle smaller than a can of coke can't really do anything for your octane rating IMO. Toluene...is THE way of boosting Octane 10:1 mix is what I've been recommended but it depends on how good your ECU is at adapting to it. Proboost and Millers just can't compare....only problem is that Toluene is not allowed to be bought as fuel. So you just say you want it for thinning paint or degreasing. Try Albion Chemicals...I think they are nationaly based...they took over Hays Chemicals. Its cheaper than Fuel! I bought 75L for about £45...I think...I have family in the trade...it always helps!! __________________

20th May 2002, 09:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Scott J Davies Scott J Davies has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Altrincham Cars owned: M3 SMGII Posts: 248	Have used Millers and Silkolene and many others. NF is the only product where I have felt results. In an independent test of 10 boosters it came out on top, it can give up to 6 ron at only 15mls per litre. Take a Pepsi challenge, trust me you won't be disappointed. Oh and I don't sell this either etc, just my experience. NOS make a booster which is meant to be pretty tasty as well. SJD __________________

20th May 2002, 10:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fuggles Fuggles is online Chairman GTR Owners Club Join Date: Jul 2001 Cars owned: R33 GT-R Posts: 21,296	Don't forget, if you leave fuel in the tank for a few days it can lose up to 2 RON. Not sure how long it has to saty and under what conditions but worth bearing in mind if you are going to get serious about this stuff. I like the sound of Toluene, but how critical is it in getting the mixture right? John __________________

21st May 2002, 07:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
Smootster73 Smootster73 has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still Waxing the Dolphin probably! Cars owned: Don't ask!! Posts: 1,757	offer to the board if any of you fellows wants some Octance booster then I can get a box of 10 bottles for a good price. Works out around 3 pounds a bottle. Just don't ask me to deliver it. It is the millers stuff BTW See you when I see you. Send me a pm as opposed to replying to board post. Nick __________________

21st May 2002, 09:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jez Jez has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Coast Cars owned: 550+ Apexi Tuned GTR Posts: 338	Glen, I think you have the answer ! If I drive really slow everyone will see my wheels and I won't need Octane Booster Thanks for all your help guys, I'll probably get some booster of some sort just to be on the safe side, I think Toluene is carcinogenic though so I may avoid that one. Jez __________________

21st May 2002, 09:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
Smootster73 Smootster73 has no status. GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still Waxing the Dolphin probably! Cars owned: Don't ask!! Posts: 1,757	I think that is what it is all about..safety.. you probably thin the car is flying and if you think so then it will!! I just want to use it to make sure that I have no issues with det on the rollers when the car and air temp is going up as more cars get in there and warm up the ambient temp. Better safe than sorry. __________________

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