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de wonderful · 2nd July 2011, 08:13 AM

I'm getting rid now, got a Tomei kit on eghey.

I had a weird moment in my 33 yesterday - I was booting in it 2nd and the back stepped out, then the back end felt kind of odd and it was like a sicking sensation as I kept driving for a bit - like it was doing what it wanted.

I know my bushing are ok 'cos it was all checked a two replaced just a few weeks ago.

rasored · 2nd July 2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de wonderful

I'm getting rid now, got a Tomei kit on eghey.

I had a weird moment in my 33 yesterday - I was booting in it 2nd and the back stepped out, then the back end felt kind of odd and it was like a sicking sensation as I kept driving for a bit - like it was doing what it wanted.

I know my bushing are ok 'cos it was all checked a two replaced just a few weeks ago.

track rod end gone ?

de wonderful · 2nd July 2011, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasored

track rod end gone ?

It's possible but when I had the MOT just a month ago I had to replace one tie/track rod end...and some other bushing/joint and they were NAZI's about checking it 'cos one had hardly any play.

RonniNielsen · 3rd July 2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de wonderful

I'm getting rid now, got a Tomei kit on eghey.

I had a weird moment in my 33 yesterday - I was booting in it 2nd and the back stepped out, then the back end felt kind of odd and it was like a sicking sensation as I kept driving for a bit - like it was doing what it wanted.

I know my bushing are ok 'cos it was all checked a two replaced just a few weeks ago.

Thats how i crashed my car on a wet road

it just kicked out the back while going straight

de wonderful · 19th July 2011, 07:49 PM

Got the HICAS delete bars in place now and car is much better. It's night and day difference and feels much more planted without the feeling you get with the HICAS.

Steve · 19th July 2011, 08:02 PM

You'll regret it!!!

It***8217;s like have a racehorse and then putting saddle made for a donkey on it!!

de wonderful · 19th July 2011, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

You'll regret it!!!

It***8217;s like have a racehorse and then putting saddle made for a donkey on it!!

Ha ha, but the cars without HICAS are faster around a track.

Anyway I lost confidence in it after a couple of 'odd moments'. And I was talking to RB Motorsport and they say that some music on the stereo can make it activate, that Venga Boys tune from years ago apparently?

slaphead · 19th July 2011, 10:27 PM

I had mine bushed out 5 years back by RB - if you know how to drive a RWD car there's no point in having it - I found myself correcting a situation faster than the hicas could - indeed once I was back on the straight and narrow the hicas would kick in and try to throw me off the road/track it was a liability TBH

de wonderful · 19th July 2011, 10:33 PM

Yes I found the HICAS most intrusive when exiting a corner, you can feel the back end go like a shopping trolly as it does its thing.

Steve · 20th July 2011, 07:43 AM

NOT IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE WITH IT CORRECTLY WITH HICAS !!!
The whole point of HICAS is to not let the car "errr Drift" cos when you are going sideways, you aint going fastest round a circuit. (look at a Formula one car) If you want sideways then go buy a 350Z, one of the best cars I have found for going sideways, even with traction switched on !!
The whole point of the GTR and the way it's set up was not to let it "slip" around corners and keep it faster in, out and round the corners, hence it won everything in Japan, New Zealand, Oz and in fact conquered the world, and the reason why we love it so much, so why change it ? If you work with the HICAS I bet you it will be faster round a corner than a ***8220;rear wheel drive GTR or again go buy yourself a GTS or GTT (I also had a R34 GTT) so think I do know what I am talking about !

UP to you, but the reason the GTR was created in the form it is, was to be the fastest and win races which it did ***8211; out of the box !

Silverback2 · 21st July 2011, 09:25 AM

I am exceptionally doubtful there are any serious race GT-Rs out there that still have HICAS. It's use is dubious at best on track, and it's bloody heavy.

For an old school GT-R to compete successfully with the latest tech from Mitsubishi, your mechanics have to be top notch and so does your tuner, and you need a driver who understands how to push a Skyline. I'll stick my neck out and say that for a successful racing package, HICAS isn't welcome to the party.

TAZZMAXX · 21st July 2011, 12:42 PM

If it was that good why was it dropped from the R35 spec sheet?

Talski · 21st July 2011, 12:50 PM

Hi all,

I've only had my 34GTR for a year now, and to be honest, not driven it that much. When I do take it on the motorway, it keeps trying to veer off to the right or does a wierd 'shuffle' movement (yes, I have had laser tracking done on car).
Funny thing is, the hicas light has never come up on the dash at the time.
I'm wondering if it's broke, and I should just get it removed. It tends to make me a bit nervous on the motorway.
Having said that, driving on some of tighter twisty roads, it feels surprisingly nimble for such a big heavy car, so I'm really un-decided on taking it off or not..?

Tinoush · 21st July 2011, 03:07 PM

I have no problems what so ever.
only 2 times at 60mph i felt the back move when i was changing lines in the highway.
in corners or launches there is no movement in the back. sometimes i cant believe how fast you can take corners with it. i just know that thing is working really hard to keep my car on the road. its the guardian angel of gtr if you ask me. I have a drift license so i am not afraid of going a little bit sideways. but it just doesn't happen.
i leave it as my car has done only 56,000 km. its almost a new hicas.

nickdesign · 31st July 2011, 09:35 AM

I still have the HICAS on my R34 GTT (converted to MPH too), and I haven't noticed any funny business at all. Even in the wet round corners it seems solid, I assumed the HICAS would be quite active then. Maybe HICAS is an issue on GTR's due to the way the 4WD system works, and more so after the conversion to MPH?

To be honest being RWD having TCS and HICAS probably isn't a bad thing? Anything that helps is welcome, especially in the wet and during winter when my car is frequently marooned by snow on my stupidly sloped driveway

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2nd July 2011, 08:13 AM	#331 (permalink)
de wonderful de wonderful is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South Manchester Cars owned: R33 GTST Posts: 127	I'm getting rid now, got a Tomei kit on eghey. I had a weird moment in my 33 yesterday - I was booting in it 2nd and the back stepped out, then the back end felt kind of odd and it was like a sicking sensation as I kept driving for a bit - like it was doing what it wanted. I know my bushing are ok 'cos it was all checked a two replaced just a few weeks ago. __________________

19th July 2011, 07:49 PM	#335 (permalink)
de wonderful de wonderful is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South Manchester Cars owned: R33 GTST Posts: 127	Got the HICAS delete bars in place now and car is much better. It's night and day difference and feels much more planted without the feeling you get with the HICAS. __________________

19th July 2011, 08:02 PM	#336 (permalink)
Steve Steve is Mr GTR Executive GTR Owners Club Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Berkshire Cars owned: Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R "V"Spec Posts: 5,563	You'll regret it!!! It*8217;s like have a racehorse and then putting saddle made for a donkey on it!! __________________ Keep it on the Black Stuff Steve + A-BEUT HARDCORE MEMBER** Nissan Skyline R33 GTR Vspec 2.8ltr Tomei Forged Engine, 87mm Pistons, H Section Rods,Tomei Cams. 2008 Nissan GTR Black Edition Litchfield Stage 2 Tune Full Alcon 400mm BBK all Round Gearbox Clip Upgrade Complete Miltek 90mm Fast Flow Stainless Steel Exhaust System K&N Filters Carbon Fibre Dash and Centre Console Inlays Front & Rear Parking Sensors Dark Tints to Rear and Rear Quarter Windows Bridgestone RE070’s

19th July 2011, 10:27 PM	#338 (permalink)
slaphead slaphead is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk Cars owned: R32 GTR, Saab 95 Aero, Skodoid Octavia Diesel Auto (V.V.V.V. SLOW) Posts: 72	I had mine bushed out 5 years back by RB - if you know how to drive a RWD car there's no point in having it - I found myself correcting a situation faster than the hicas could - indeed once I was back on the straight and narrow the hicas would kick in and try to throw me off the road/track it was a liability TBH __________________

19th July 2011, 10:33 PM	#339 (permalink)
de wonderful de wonderful is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South Manchester Cars owned: R33 GTST Posts: 127	Yes I found the HICAS most intrusive when exiting a corner, you can feel the back end go like a shopping trolly as it does its thing. __________________

20th July 2011, 07:43 AM	#340 (permalink)
Steve Steve is Mr GTR Executive GTR Owners Club Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Berkshire Cars owned: Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R "V"Spec Posts: 5,563	NOT IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE WITH IT CORRECTLY WITH HICAS !!! The whole point of HICAS is to not let the car "errr Drift" cos when you are going sideways, you aint going fastest round a circuit. (look at a Formula one car) If you want sideways then go buy a 350Z, one of the best cars I have found for going sideways, even with traction switched on !! The whole point of the GTR and the way it's set up was not to let it "slip" around corners and keep it faster in, out and round the corners, hence it won everything in Japan, New Zealand, Oz and in fact conquered the world, and the reason why we love it so much, so why change it ? If you work with the HICAS I bet you it will be faster round a corner than a *8220;rear wheel drive GTR or again go buy yourself a GTS or GTT (I also had a R34 GTT) so think I do know what I am talking about ! UP to you, but the reason the GTR was created in the form it is, was to be the fastest and win races which it did 8211; out of the box ! __________________ Keep it on the Black Stuff* Steve + A-BEUT HARDCORE MEMBER Nissan Skyline R33 GTR Vspec 2.8ltr Tomei Forged Engine, 87mm Pistons, H Section Rods,Tomei Cams. 2008 Nissan GTR Black Edition Litchfield Stage 2 Tune Full Alcon 400mm BBK all Round Gearbox Clip Upgrade Complete Miltek 90mm Fast Flow Stainless Steel Exhaust System K&N Filters Carbon Fibre Dash and Centre Console Inlays Front & Rear Parking Sensors Dark Tints to Rear and Rear Quarter Windows Bridgestone RE070’s

21st July 2011, 09:25 AM	#341 (permalink)
Silverback2 Silverback2 is Club Pro Time Attack Champion 2011 Carbon Bigfoot Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 106	I am exceptionally doubtful there are any serious race GT-Rs out there that still have HICAS. It's use is dubious at best on track, and it's bloody heavy. For an old school GT-R to compete successfully with the latest tech from Mitsubishi, your mechanics have to be top notch and so does your tuner, and you need a driver who understands how to push a Skyline. I'll stick my neck out and say that for a successful racing package, HICAS isn't welcome to the party. __________________

21st July 2011, 12:42 PM	#342 (permalink)
TAZZMAXX TAZZMAXX is hoping for the best but expecting the worst Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Staffordshire Cars owned: R35 GTR Posts: 7,194	If it was that good why was it dropped from the R35 spec sheet? __________________ Ambition is the last refuge of failure

21st July 2011, 12:50 PM	#343 (permalink)
Talski Talski is BORG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GTR Register User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Cars owned: R34 GTR VSpec Posts: 206	Hi all, I've only had my 34GTR for a year now, and to be honest, not driven it that much. When I do take it on the motorway, it keeps trying to veer off to the right or does a wierd 'shuffle' movement (yes, I have had laser tracking done on car). Funny thing is, the hicas light has never come up on the dash at the time. I'm wondering if it's broke, and I should just get it removed. It tends to make me a bit nervous on the motorway. Having said that, driving on some of tighter twisty roads, it feels surprisingly nimble for such a big heavy car, so I'm really un-decided on taking it off or not..? __________________

21st July 2011, 03:07 PM	#344 (permalink)
Tinoush Tinoush is dreaming of 500 HP GTR Register User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Netherlands Posts: 322	I have no problems what so ever. only 2 times at 60mph i felt the back move when i was changing lines in the highway. in corners or launches there is no movement in the back. sometimes i cant believe how fast you can take corners with it. i just know that thing is working really hard to keep my car on the road. its the guardian angel of gtr if you ask me. I have a drift license so i am not afraid of going a little bit sideways. but it just doesn't happen. i leave it as my car has done only 56,000 km. its almost a new hicas. __________________

31st July 2011, 09:35 AM	#345 (permalink)
nickdesign nickdesign is enjoying his ER34 GTt Skyline GTR Register Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Cars owned: ER34 GTt 2.5 Turbo '98 Silver [Stock] Posts: 61	I still have the HICAS on my R34 GTT (converted to MPH too), and I haven't noticed any funny business at all. Even in the wet round corners it seems solid, I assumed the HICAS would be quite active then. Maybe HICAS is an issue on GTR's due to the way the 4WD system works, and more so after the conversion to MPH? To be honest being RWD having TCS and HICAS probably isn't a bad thing? Anything that helps is welcome, especially in the wet and during winter when my car is frequently marooned by snow on my stupidly sloped driveway __________________

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