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Old 23rd September 2005, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No offence to truck drivers who don't do it and if there are any that do please lets have an explanation. Im all ears!

You are level for a mile or so then give up as you have the same effin engine as the guy next to you ... yet you knew this so why Ooh Why must you pull out to overtake the truck in front of you as soon as the Motorway starts to incline?

Other than to generally hack off all the cars I can't see any other reason !

Oh and don't you get ****ed off when you are stuck behind a truck doing the same when you are in the car?
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My truck has a large engine for what I pull so don't have problems on regular hills.

Normally end up in this situation by catching up a slower truck and pulling out to overtake, then him getting a second head of steam and picking-up speed. Then we sit there both on the speed limiter until someone backs off.

The trick in a truck is keeping up the momentum and making progress so generally you are sitting on the limiter at either 54 or 56 mph (whichever it has been set at). If you get caught behind a slower truck at the start of a hill then you lose the momentum and wont get the speed back till you make it to the top. This is why we end up in these situations.

So, on behalf of truck drivers up and down the country, sorry for being in your way BUT I dare say once you got past you were able to accelerate away happily unrestricted while he was still plodding away.
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its probably down too the weights on the vehicle,and who has the bigger bhp!
i must admit,more and more lorry drivers are doing this,and i agree with you it is annoying,at the end of the day my truck doesn't really struggle,its got enough bhp too maintain a mind blowing 55mph ,whether i'm on a straight,or going up a hill.
the way i deal with it,is if i catch a guy up,but only closing the gap on him slowly,i will maintain a safe gap untill we hit the bottom of a biggish hill,then if i know i'm gonna get past him/her on the hill,i will pull out and overtake,if not i pretty much just hold a constant gap,and plod along behind them!!!
think alot of the problem these days,is that standards are dropping across the board,wether you drive,a truck,a skyline,etc,there are always gona be good and bad!
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So, on behalf of truck drivers up and down the country, sorry for being in your way
Very kind of you!

I understand the speed limit issues no problem, i just don't understand why they don't do the same downhill or on the straights.... They seem to save it up especially for the hills

Out of interest what happened to the no overtaking law that was mentioned about a year ago for trucks ? Can't remember exactly when and where there was no overtaking but I did agree with the truckers that it was a sh*te idea as ther eis a time and a place to overtake no matter what you are drive truck, moped, skyline, whatever!
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No offence to truck drivers who don't do it and if there are any that do please lets have an explanation. Im all ears!

You are level for a mile or so then give up as you have the same effin engine as the guy next to you ... yet you knew this so why Ooh Why must you pull out to overtake the truck in front of you as soon as the Motorway starts to incline?

Other than to generally hack off all the cars I can't see any other reason !

Oh and don't you get ****ed off when you are stuck behind a truck doing the same when you are in the car?
wanda,what you also have too remember,is that we don't all have the "same effin engine", think john m will back me up here,you saying that is like me saying,a skyline is a skyline,from a r33gts, too a r33gtr v-spec,when we all know there's a huge difference.
what you need too do is go and spend a day in a truck,could give you a much different perspective on things
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A better idea would be to remove the limiters, but its not going to happen
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wanda,what you also have too remember,is that we don't all have the "same effin engine", think john m will back me up here,you saying that is like me saying,a skyline is a skyline,from a r33gts, too a r33gtr v-spec,when we all know there's a huge difference.
Sorry i put that bit wrong(its the rant section and i got carried away on a rant) I just meant they are limited to 56

I'd love a day in a truck, i would cause mass destruction
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A better idea would be to remove the limiters, but its not going to happen
Speed limit for a truck on the motorway is 60mph.

However limiters set for 54 - 56 mph
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Sorry i put that bit wrong(its the rant section and i got carried away on a rant) I just meant they are limited to 56

I'd love a day in a truck, i would cause mass destruction
i like lee's idea get rid of the limiters
mind you next time your on the motorway,check out how many trucks over 7.5 tonne,especially artics are doing well in excess of 54-56mph,a few english,but the majority of them will be foreign registered,i guarentee it
mass destruction eh
my mate on here, r33gtsman,has been on several trips with me,i think he'd agree theres alot more too it than you'd expect!
don't get me wrong,i'm not perfect,i probably carve someone up most days,not normally intentionally,but i'll always wave as a sign too say sorry
or fcuk you,if i'm having a crap day
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I have to agree this is really annoying and I would support the person that mentioned foreign drivers too. On a nice clear road fine the odd truck pulling out is not a problem but and it is a big but at five o'clock to seven on a night it is a nightmare the motorways are essentially limited to 1 lane due to all the truck drivers having their "I can drive 1 mile an hour faster than you competitions". I know you guys want to get home on time but please, you completely f*ck up a motorway for 10's of miles just so you can get past a truck that will be over taking you when you go down hill

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I've got plenty of respect for truckers (the ones that aren't cocks)as you say theres more to than you think, as I saw a mate of ours wipe out a car completely as he was turning into our yard and never saw a thing of it in his mirrors and he'd been driving artics for 20yrs!

Bear in mind it was a ford Probe with brown leather seats and the owner was the arrogant idiot MD from a neighbouring business so It kept us amused for ages watching the small skinny guy jumping up and down at our huge pie eating trucker.

I've seen a few dodgy near misses from foreign LHD trucks as cars in their blind spot nearly disappearing underneath them
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I've seen a few dodgy near misses from foreign LHD trucks as cars in their blind spot nearly disappearing underneath them
These seem to be the big problem now on the motorways as the numbers of foreign trucks increase all the time. See no end of these accidents on the motorways.
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the blind spots are a major problem in trucks,especially for the foreign truckers,this i reckon accounts for 80% of the accidents you see involving foreign trucks.
i know we are a pain in the ****,especially the 4-7pm rush hour scenario,and i can't disagree with you,but most of the time,we work too very tight deadlines,and if you had any idea how much hassle we get when arriving more than 15-30 minutes late at a delivery point,maybe you'd understand a little bit more,alot of the times we are at the mercy of big distribution centres,the like of tesco,asda,argos etc,and they can be right fcukers
i was in germany last week on route too slovakia,and on most major motorways around the big towns and cities,they have no overtaking for lorries from approx 6am-8pm,good for cars,crap for lorries,maybe they could experiment with it here,say 7-9am,and then 4-7pm
don't think it would solve anything though
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These seem to be the big problem now on the motorways as the numbers of foreign trucks increase all the time. See no end of these accidents on the motorways.

There was a feature about it recenlty on 5th gear or one of the other car shows.
I'd seen it plenty of times and i just thought it was down to tired drivers but they can't see anything at all when you're alongside them... having seen why I drop it down a cog and get out of the was asap
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i was in germany last week on route too slovakia,and on most major motorways around the big towns and cities,they have no overtaking for lorries from approx 6am-8pm,good for cars,crap for lorries,maybe they could experiment with it here,say 7-9am,and then 4-7pm
don't think it would solve anything though
Seem to be less trucks on the road over there though and lots of the Autobahns are just two lanes(IMO but might be wrong).
Could you imagime the M1 southbound past Hemel Hempstead if all the trucks were limited to the left hand lane? It'd be stationary! Nothing able to come onto or leave the Motorway. Second lane would be stationary due to cars trying to get into the first lane to get to exits. Third lane slow/stationary as drivers want to see what's going on.
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