Getting 500bhp??? - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

andy g · 28th October 2005, 02:29 PM

I need your advice everbody. What do i need to get 500bhp ish at the flywheel(450 at the hubs) ???? Im going away for six months so will have time to save some money. I know this may been asked before, have done a search but cant find anything specfic

So i guess i will need turbos, Apexi power fc, Z32 afm??? Cams (as i want a torque as much as i want power) anything else, bar deep pockets

Andy
ps already have full exhaust and induction kit and boost controller

Jim27 · 28th October 2005, 09:19 PM

I'd say:

Denso iridium plugs.
Cams
Downpipes
Metal head gasket
Uprated intercooler
Hard pipe kit
Cam pulleys
1.3 bar boost
Twin plate clutch. Possibly triple if you intending mucho launching...

I'm sure there's other bits but nowt springs to mind at the mo...

lewisj · 28th October 2005, 10:25 PM

and tubbys

Bandit · 29th October 2005, 06:11 AM

turbos
cams
injectors
intercooler
dowpipes
induction
fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator
ECU with remap for 1.2 bar boost

Thats pretty much what i've got and mine is running 525 fwhp

andy g · 29th October 2005, 08:40 AM

cheers for that, have all rest bar
turbos
cams
injectors
Cam pulleys
fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator
Metal head gasket
Is that all i need???? Thanks for you help everbody, anymore comments would be useful

Hedgehog Dodger · 29th October 2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy g

cheers for that, have all rest bar
turbos
cams
injectors
Cam pulleys
fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator
Metal head gasket
Is that all i need???? Thanks for you help everbody, anymore comments would be useful

You know what you could do to get the skyline a little quicker. Loose some weight. Put it on a diet and you could loose up to 250kgs.

But if you want 500HP so you can say 500HP, then yes, do whats been mentioned.

Jim27 · 29th October 2005, 10:23 AM

And shares in Shell.

And clear printed directions to your chosen Skyline tuner, so that when something breaks the flatbed driver knows where he's taking it

kgleeson · 29th October 2005, 12:51 PM

Depends how much you want to spend. You don't need all of the stuff that has been listed above to get to 500bhp.

Heres what you will definatley need.

Turbos - Hybrids / 2510s something similar
Injectors min 550cc
Fuel reg - recomended to ensure correct fuel pressure
Exhaust and downpipes definately
Good plugs
Boost controller
Uprated clutch plate - Will handle 420 - 450 ATW providing you are not just doing drag runs. I ran one of these for 12 months with around 450 ATW no problem.

Not 100% sure on the following as I have always had them in the car.
Induction kit
Air flow meters - Mines and now Z32s (not needed though if choosing HKS FCON)

I would recomend an oil cooler it is not needed for getting to 500bhp but definatley helps cool the motor and I wouldn't want to push a skyline hard without one.

All the abvoe can be obtained and fitted reasonably easily and will not be massively expensive. Some of the mods below require signifcantly more labour and will start pushing the costs up considerably

Mods below are not needed to get to 500bhp but some are advisable for longevity and possibly driveability.

Metal head gasket 1.2mm - Recomended but not absolutley essential plenty have run without upto 1.4 bar me included.
Hard pipe kit - not needed
Intercooler - not needed
Fuel pump - Not needed for 500
CAMs - Not needed for 500

You will need a good aftermarket ECU mapped by a competent person.
PFC, HKS FCON, AEM, others

Like I say depends how much money you have to spend. You also want to decide what your goal is for you car. If you are going to go for bigger power later you might want bigger injectors now for example.

Personally if you ever plan to go above your 500bhp figure. Save up and do it all in one go. Don't foget to improve your breaks by at least getting uprated pads and possibly braided hoses. No good going faster (and it is a lot faster than standard at 450 ATW) if you can't stop.

Kev

legalr33 · 9th November 2005, 11:14 AM

Great info everyone.

I thought the intercooler and fuel pump were good up to 400hp.

My buddy has a R33GTR with 2530s, cams, fuel upgrades, intercooler, Z32 AFMs, and doing 460 awhp, 91 octane, 1.4 bar.

Why isn't he doing 500 awhp?

I like the idea of the 2530s, but I'm afraid I will spend that money and be under 500 awhp like my buddy.

I have a GTR 33. Budget is $5000 USD. I'd like at least 500 awhp on 91 octane (thats what we got in Cali). I'm being vain, I know, but I want to outperfom than a stock 2006 Corvette Z06, in other words, have at least a mid-11 sec car. Also, I'm more of a road course enthusiast than a drag one.

What turbos or turbo do I go with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgleeson

Depends how much you want to spend. You don't need all of the stuff that has been listed above to get to 500bhp.

Heres what you will definatley need.

Turbos - Hybrids / 2510s something similar
Injectors min 550cc
Fuel reg - recomended to ensure correct fuel pressure
Exhaust and downpipes definately
Good plugs
Boost controller
Uprated clutch plate - Will handle 420 - 450 ATW providing you are not just doing drag runs. I ran one of these for 12 months with around 450 ATW no problem.

Not 100% sure on the following as I have always had them in the car.
Induction kit
Air flow meters - Mines and now Z32s (not needed though if choosing HKS FCON)

I would recomend an oil cooler it is not needed for getting to 500bhp but definatley helps cool the motor and I wouldn't want to push a skyline hard without one.

All the abvoe can be obtained and fitted reasonably easily and will not be massively expensive. Some of the mods below require signifcantly more labour and will start pushing the costs up considerably

Mods below are not needed to get to 500bhp but some are advisable for longevity and possibly driveability.

Metal head gasket 1.2mm - Recomended but not absolutley essential plenty have run without upto 1.4 bar me included.
Hard pipe kit - not needed
Intercooler - not needed
Fuel pump - Not needed for 500
CAMs - Not needed for 500

You will need a good aftermarket ECU mapped by a competent person.
PFC, HKS FCON, AEM, others

Like I say depends how much money you have to spend. You also want to decide what your goal is for you car. If you are going to go for bigger power later you might want bigger injectors now for example.

Personally if you ever plan to go above your 500bhp figure. Save up and do it all in one go. Don't foget to improve your breaks by at least getting uprated pads and possibly braided hoses. No good going faster (and it is a lot faster than standard at 450 ATW) if you can't stop.

Kev

NISFAN · 9th November 2005, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legalr33

My buddy has a R33GTR with 2530s, cams, fuel upgrades, intercooler, Z32 AFMs, and doing 460 awhp, 91 octane, 1.4 bar.

Why isn't he doing 500 awhp?

Erm, perhaps the 91 octane?

Daz · 9th November 2005, 11:59 AM

Why would you not need to uprate the cams ?

My cams are completely maxed out - and i'm only running 365 hub hp.

Bajie · 9th November 2005, 12:45 PM

My goodness.
I only need a couple of bits to get there!

NISFAN · 9th November 2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daz

Why would you not need to uprate the cams ?

My cams are completely maxed out - and i'm only running 365 hub hp.

How do you max out cams?

Obviously it's easier to get 500 with higher lift/duration cams, but not essential.

legalr33 · 9th November 2005, 06:37 PM

Which single turbo would suffice for my goal? Not looking for a big single.

Or should I got with 2530s?

Please keep in mind I like canyon runs and road racing rather than drag strips.

And yes, we have **** poor 91 octane to deal with. However, its only $2.65 per gallon...hehe

Would love to hear your input.

koopa · 25th November 2005, 05:18 PM

im pretty sure a 500bhp GTR will not outrun a new z06. these cars run 500fwhp out the box and mated to a rear wheel drive set up they dont have the tranny losses the GTR does. Am i right in thinking the 06 Z06 is an 11 sec car from the factory? I saw a stock one whoop on a 450rwhp kenne bell svt cobra in a vid clip

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28th October 2005, 09:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jim27 GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bolton Posts: 4,478	I'd say: Denso iridium plugs. Cams Downpipes Metal head gasket Uprated intercooler Hard pipe kit Cam pulleys 1.3 bar boost Twin plate clutch. Possibly triple if you intending mucho launching... I'm sure there's other bits but nowt springs to mind at the mo...

28th October 2005, 10:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
lewisj GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 143	and tubbys

29th October 2005, 06:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bandit GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the fast lane Posts: 742	turbos cams injectors intercooler dowpipes induction fuel pump fuel pressure regulator ECU with remap for 1.2 bar boost Thats pretty much what i've got and mine is running 525 fwhp

29th October 2005, 08:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
andy g GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany, Canada, UK,Afghan,Iraq,Kenya,Kuwait Posts: 176	cheers for that, have all rest bar turbos cams injectors Cam pulleys fuel pump fuel pressure regulator Metal head gasket Is that all i need???? Thanks for you help everbody, anymore comments would be useful

29th October 2005, 10:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jim27 GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bolton Posts: 4,478	And shares in Shell. And clear printed directions to your chosen Skyline tuner, so that when something breaks the flatbed driver knows where he's taking it

29th October 2005, 12:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
kgleeson GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 1,190	Depends how much you want to spend. You don't need all of the stuff that has been listed above to get to 500bhp. Heres what you will definatley need. Turbos - Hybrids / 2510s something similar Injectors min 550cc Fuel reg - recomended to ensure correct fuel pressure Exhaust and downpipes definately Good plugs Boost controller Uprated clutch plate - Will handle 420 - 450 ATW providing you are not just doing drag runs. I ran one of these for 12 months with around 450 ATW no problem. Not 100% sure on the following as I have always had them in the car. Induction kit Air flow meters - Mines and now Z32s (not needed though if choosing HKS FCON) I would recomend an oil cooler it is not needed for getting to 500bhp but definatley helps cool the motor and I wouldn't want to push a skyline hard without one. All the abvoe can be obtained and fitted reasonably easily and will not be massively expensive. Some of the mods below require signifcantly more labour and will start pushing the costs up considerably Mods below are not needed to get to 500bhp but some are advisable for longevity and possibly driveability. Metal head gasket 1.2mm - Recomended but not absolutley essential plenty have run without upto 1.4 bar me included. Hard pipe kit - not needed Intercooler - not needed Fuel pump - Not needed for 500 CAMs - Not needed for 500 You will need a good aftermarket ECU mapped by a competent person. PFC, HKS FCON, AEM, others Like I say depends how much money you have to spend. You also want to decide what your goal is for you car. If you are going to go for bigger power later you might want bigger injectors now for example. Personally if you ever plan to go above your 500bhp figure. Save up and do it all in one go. Don't foget to improve your breaks by at least getting uprated pads and possibly braided hoses. No good going faster (and it is a lot faster than standard at 450 ATW) if you can't stop. Kev

9th November 2005, 11:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
Daz GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the South Posts: 6,017	Why would you not need to uprate the cams ? My cams are completely maxed out - and i'm only running 365 hub hp.

9th November 2005, 06:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
legalr33 GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California USA Posts: 287	Which single turbo would suffice for my goal? Not looking for a big single. Or should I got with 2530s? Please keep in mind I like canyon runs and road racing rather than drag strips. And yes, we have **** poor 91 octane to deal with. However, its only $2.65 per gallon...hehe Would love to hear your input.

25th November 2005, 05:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
koopa GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: glasgow / in the boxing ring training Posts: 936	im pretty sure a 500bhp GTR will not outrun a new z06. these cars run 500fwhp out the box and mated to a rear wheel drive set up they dont have the tranny losses the GTR does. Am i right in thinking the 06 Z06 is an 11 sec car from the factory? I saw a stock one whoop on a 450rwhp kenne bell svt cobra in a vid clip