Nismo Z-tune R34 and Nismo twin-plate clutch.... - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

ExScoobyT · 2nd November 2005, 10:25 AM

I`m still desparately trying to decide on which clutch to use on my R33 GTR circa 530PS.

Abbey have recomended an Exedy twin at £1300.
RK go for OS Giken at a similar price (including pull to push conversion).

I can get the new Nismo supercopper mix twin for significantly less than the above, however I am concerned with driveability and gearbox durability.

Can anyone help? Do you have experience of the Nismo twin - is it user friendly?

From the reviews of the Nismo Z-tune R34 recently, fitted with the new Nismo twin, the clutch actually draws very favorable comments for ease of use, however would the car have had the larger clutch master cylinder as well?

Any help gratefully recieved!

daytona · 2nd November 2005, 10:39 AM

I can't comment on the other two, but i'm running a triple plate OS Giken on my car. I find this clutch to be very drivable with a desent biting arc pretty light in use as well. recently drove 300 miles in one hit including stop start traffic, got home without cursing the clutch once

i would assume that the twin plate would have similar or better drivability, hope this helps.

ExScoobyT · 2nd November 2005, 10:52 AM

Do I actually need a twin-plate?

It will do trackdays, it will not do standing starts.

Are there any single plate clutches that will survive?

I`m still running the std clutch at 49Kmiles. It only slips when very hot and then only at high vehicle speeds at peak torque. Is a twin over-kill?

Running a set of GT-SS at 1.2bar (will goto 1.5bar midrange with new clutch!).

Thanks.

jae · 2nd November 2005, 11:22 AM

Faultless & worth every penny. Talk to Mark about it.

NITO · 2nd November 2005, 11:33 AM

I'd definately go for a twin with GT-SS turbos.

I should imagine they are all much of a muchness. I have a Nismo Gmax and I'm very pleased with it. My 32 has a Giken twin which is also very good. Exedy make the Nismo ones so they must be very good also. You won't need a larger clutch cylinder, the pedal isn't over heavy.

Daytona, are you sure yours is a triple? Have you seen it yourself or did you buy it like that and were told it was a triple. My experience of the Giken triple was very different.

Regards
Nito

duka · 2nd November 2005, 02:27 PM

I had a Nismo GMax twin on my 33 and it was superb - it was just under 600bhp at the flywheel.

light, easy to use with no snatching on or off like a switch - good in traffic too

ExScoobyT · 2nd November 2005, 02:42 PM

duka - was that the old version?

Peter · 2nd November 2005, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NITO

My experience of the Giken triple was very different.

As is mine with the OSG quad, it took a while but it is purely a switch now, you're either in drive or not, very little in between. Not complaining though, just is a tad tricky in town...

DCD · 2nd November 2005, 03:05 PM

ATS carbon twin all the way. Worth every penny. Nismo twin as fitted to the Z-tune is good but nowhere close to what the ATS offeres. Standard clutch action and feel with the potential to handle power up to 700 HP. What more do you want?

duka · 2nd November 2005, 03:25 PM

would have been a couple of years ago so i'm not sure if they've changed - I can check and see if I still have the part number if you want?

ExScoobyT · 2nd November 2005, 03:34 PM

Duka- thanks but that will have been the old version.

ATS clutches are push only (?) and hence have the added cost of pull to push?

DCD · 2nd November 2005, 04:07 PM

the conversion costs about 8,000 Yen (38 pounds) and all parts are available from Nissan.

Pulse D · 2nd November 2005, 08:51 PM

Fitted an Exedy Single plate paddle about 500miles ago. As Nito says, Exedy make the Nismo ones.

So far so good, seems very strong yet extremely driveable. Though i'm not planning to do many 'drag' starts, and i haven't got as much power as most of you guys
(unfortunately

)

stealth · 3rd November 2005, 08:40 AM

I have an Exedy twin plate ,very pleased with it although it can be a pain in traffic and tire you out more if you get stuck for a long time .Once out of first gear just like a normal clutch

ExScoobyT · 3rd November 2005, 10:52 AM

Thanks guys - sounds like they are all much-for-muchness! Start off nice and get worse as the plate wear.

2nd November 2005, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
ExScoobyT GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: `down sourfff Posts: 1,052	Nismo Z-tune R34 and Nismo twin-plate clutch.... I`m still desparately trying to decide on which clutch to use on my R33 GTR circa 530PS. Abbey have recomended an Exedy twin at £1300. RK go for OS Giken at a similar price (including pull to push conversion). I can get the new Nismo supercopper mix twin for significantly less than the above, however I am concerned with driveability and gearbox durability. Can anyone help? Do you have experience of the Nismo twin - is it user friendly? From the reviews of the Nismo Z-tune R34 recently, fitted with the new Nismo twin, the clutch actually draws very favorable comments for ease of use, however would the car have had the larger clutch master cylinder as well? Any help gratefully recieved!

2nd November 2005, 11:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
jae New Users Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: West Sussex Posts: 2,305	HKS GD-Max Twin Plate Faultless & worth every penny. Talk to Mark about it.

2nd November 2005, 11:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
NITO GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kent Posts: 1,373	I'd definately go for a twin with GT-SS turbos. I should imagine they are all much of a muchness. I have a Nismo Gmax and I'm very pleased with it. My 32 has a Giken twin which is also very good. Exedy make the Nismo ones so they must be very good also. You won't need a larger clutch cylinder, the pedal isn't over heavy. Daytona, are you sure yours is a triple? Have you seen it yourself or did you buy it like that and were told it was a triple. My experience of the Giken triple was very different. Regards Nito __________________ "She'll make .5 past lightspeed"

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2nd November 2005, 10:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
daytona New Users Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: kent Posts: 503	I can't comment on the other two, but i'm running a triple plate OS Giken on my car. I find this clutch to be very drivable with a desent biting arc pretty light in use as well. recently drove 300 miles in one hit including stop start traffic, got home without cursing the clutch once i would assume that the twin plate would have similar or better drivability, hope this helps.

2nd November 2005, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
ExScoobyT GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: `down sourfff Posts: 1,052	Do I actually need a twin-plate? It will do trackdays, it will not do standing starts. Are there any single plate clutches that will survive? I`m still running the std clutch at 49Kmiles. It only slips when very hot and then only at high vehicle speeds at peak torque. Is a twin over-kill? Running a set of GT-SS at 1.2bar (will goto 1.5bar midrange with new clutch!). Thanks.

2nd November 2005, 02:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
duka GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 1,033	I had a Nismo GMax twin on my 33 and it was superb - it was just under 600bhp at the flywheel. light, easy to use with no snatching on or off like a switch - good in traffic too

2nd November 2005, 02:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
ExScoobyT GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: `down sourfff Posts: 1,052	duka - was that the old version?

2nd November 2005, 03:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
DCD GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tokyo Posts: 9,334	ATS carbon twin all the way. Worth every penny. Nismo twin as fitted to the Z-tune is good but nowhere close to what the ATS offeres. Standard clutch action and feel with the potential to handle power up to 700 HP. What more do you want?

2nd November 2005, 03:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
duka GTR Register Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 1,033	would have been a couple of years ago so i'm not sure if they've changed - I can check and see if I still have the part number if you want?

2nd November 2005, 03:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
ExScoobyT GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: `down sourfff Posts: 1,052	Duka- thanks but that will have been the old version. ATS clutches are push only (?) and hence have the added cost of pull to push?

2nd November 2005, 04:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
DCD GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tokyo Posts: 9,334	the conversion costs about 8,000 Yen (38 pounds) and all parts are available from Nissan.

2nd November 2005, 08:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pulse D GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 1,365	Fitted an Exedy Single plate paddle about 500miles ago. As Nito says, Exedy make the Nismo ones. So far so good, seems very strong yet extremely driveable. Though i'm not planning to do many 'drag' starts, and i haven't got as much power as most of you guys (unfortunately )

3rd November 2005, 08:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
stealth New Users Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: somewhere over the rainbow ( not far from Jeff ) Posts: 3,293	I have an Exedy twin plate ,very pleased with it although it can be a pain in traffic and tire you out more if you get stuck for a long time .Once out of first gear just like a normal clutch

3rd November 2005, 10:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
ExScoobyT GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: `down sourfff Posts: 1,052	Thanks guys - sounds like they are all much-for-muchness! Start off nice and get worse as the plate wear.