R32 GTR Vs R33 GTR

[fourtoes]

My point made!

Bob

[driven]

Felt i should vote, The original Group A car

[Nigel-Power]

for god's sakes it's gotta be 33, refined engine, not prone to oil pump failures as much, and they designed it inspired by a whale shame it couldnt dominate the group A's because of power restriction by Japanese laws, in the time before Christ the 32 was dominating because other manufacturers were producing similar power. When 33 was born, Porsche and other manufacturers alike, were producing cars with output of nearly 400ps and the 33 was handcuffed to mere 280ps , so no titles ufortunately, but at least it doesn't look like a midget, but a big smooth whale with a hump on it too

[MrGT]

all i will say is look at stock times for the 32 and 33 round the ring when they were both new.










you should of bought a 33


tib

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Nigel-Power

for god's sakes it's gotta be 33, refined engine, not prone to oil pump failures as much, and they designed it inspired by a whale shame it couldnt dominate the group A's because of power restriction by Japanese laws, in the time before Christ the 32 was dominating because other manufacturers were producing similar power. When 33 was born, Porsche and other manufacturers alike, were producing cars with output of nearly 400ps and the 33 was handcuffed to mere 280ps , so no titles ufortunately, but at least it doesn't look like a midget, but a big smooth whale with a hump on it too

Thanks Nigel, something i have been saying all day every day !!!The R32 was just a Prototype for the real thing - the R33, then they just went bloody stupid with the R34 ! lol

[.::TopSky::.]

I know I was one the R33s side on this thread before but I changed my mind!

All the cars are great in their own way!

If you ask Nissan themselves they will choose the R34 then the R33 and at last the R32 (if we dont count with the R35) Why? Well beacuse the engineers worked hard to make the R33 faster than the R32 on the track and to make the R34 better than them all.

Before you say wich car is better look at the track times! Beacuse Nissans goal was to hit better track times and if they didnt reach the goal they`d never never and never set the R33 and R34 into production.

END THIS DISCUSSION

[Nigel-Power]

4th generation (1995–1998)
Fourth generation A standard R33-generation Skyline GT-R.
Production 1995-1998
Body style 2-door coupe
4-door sedan
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine 2.6 L RB26DETT I6
Transmission 5-speed manual
Designer Kozo Watanabe

The E-BCNR33 (R33) was developed in 1995 as a successor to the venerable R32 model. The engine in the R33 was nearly identical to the R32. It used the same turbochargers and the same specification for the manual gearbox, although the syncros were made to be stronger. The engine corrected the R32's weak oil pump drive collar, which tended to fail in higher power applications, with a wider collar. The base model R33 GT-R weighs 1,540 kg (3,400 lb).[12]

The R33 GT-R launched in January 1995 with the base model GT-R and the V-spec model. The V-spec model weighed in 10 kg (22 lb) heavier, and had sportier suspension resulting in lower ground clearance. The V-spec also featured the newer ATTESA E-TS Pro all wheel drive system, which included an Active Limited Slip differential. The V-spec model also included a four wheel independent channel anti-lock braking system.
Rear view of an R33 GT-R.

At the same time as the release of the R33 GT-R and GT-R V-spec, Nissan released the R33 GT-R V-spec N1 model. Changes made in the R33 N1 are similar to those in the R32 N1. The car was made lighter by removing the ABS, air conditioning, sound system, rear wiper and trunk carpet. The R33 GT-R V-spec N1 received the slightly revised R33 N1 engine.

[Steve]

Is that why the Drag R and the Jun SPUER lemon were both R33's then !!!!

[Nigel-Power]

Originally Posted by Steve

Is that why the Drag R and the Jun SPUER lemon were both R33's then !!!!

That's correct, most of the world's most powerful GTRs are the R33s ..... fact!

[Mook]

Heads up, when this thread hits 51 pages I'm gonna have to lock it and you'll have to start a fresh one

[Nigel-Power]

Originally Posted by Mook

Heads up, when this thread hits 51 pages I'm gonna have to lock it and you'll have to start a fresh one

Let this be one of the longest threads there is, it has been going on since 2005, 6 years already... let it continue as long as the forum is alive, and I can assure you it won't end as more people own 32s than 33s. 40,000 R32 GTRs were produced as apposed to only 7000 R33 GTRs thats the reflection of the poll.. more owners being biased, simple as that.
I must have had all the time in the world to read every single page of this thread, very interesting and entertaining too

[Nigel-Power]

It's also worht mentioning that both of the "prettier" and "refined" GTRs the R33 and R34 were designed by Kozo Watanabe, he clearly knew what he was doing

[.::TopSky::.]

The reason why they choose R33s over R34s and R32s is beacuse the R32 is too old and the R34 is too expensive and.

R33 is the cheapest,most economical choice (Compared to R34), thats why I bought a R33 I simply couldnt afford an R34!

The R32 has a lack of technology and again its too old and gets more expensive at the end.

Those who have the money have made pretty powerfull R34s, RIPS Stealth bomber and the RIPS Drag R34 (I dont remember what its called) we also have the NITTO R34 GTR in AU and JUN made an 1200hp R34 for drag, there is a drag 1000hp+ R34 GTR in Scandinavia!

[Nigel-Power]

Originally Posted by .::TopSky::.

The reason why they choose R33s over R34s and R32s is beacuse the R32 is too old and the R34 is too expensive and.

R33 is the cheapest,most economical choice (Compared to R34), thats why I bought a R33 I simply couldnt afford an R34!

The R32 has a lack of technology and again its too old and gets more expensive at the end.

Those who have the money have made pretty powerfull R34s, RIPS Stealth bomber and the RIPS Drag R34 (I dont remember what its called) we also have the NITTO R34 GTR in AU and JUN made an 1200hp R34 for drag, there is a drag 1000hp+ R34 GTR in Scandinavia!

That's correct, regardless of the reason, there are more powerful R33s than any other GTRs.
In case you've forgotten the title of the thread running for the last 6 years.. it says R32 GTR vs R33GTR, goin on about 34 is a bit irrelevant. but still let me be clear, there are some powerful 34s as you mentioned above, but we are talking about the majority, not one here and one there

[.::TopSky::.]

Originally Posted by Nigel-Power

That's correct, regardless of the reason, there are more powerful R33s than any other GTRs.
In case you've forgotten the title of the thread running for the last 6 years.. it says R32 GTR vs R33GTR, goin on about 34 is a bit irrelevant. but still let me be clear, there are some powerful 34s as you mentioned above, but we are talking about the majority, not one here and one there

Your`re right, the majority of powerfull GTRs are R33s!

I remember a Japanese tuner said "The R33 is the best choice for most tuners, beacuse its got almost every electronic the R34 has and its almost as cheap as a R32" later on Tsychiya said "The R34 GTR is the most modern tuner car".

I agree with them 110%

What I mean is if you cant afford a R34 dont go for the R32 wait and spend a little bit more and get a car almost as good as the R34 like me and a bunch of other people.

Btw the R33 looks alot more cooler for drag racing than the R32