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Old 10th January 2017, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What do I need for 500bhp?

This has probably been asked a thousand times but it would be good to see a few different takes on this.

Between now and the end of february ( ish ) I'm hoping to gather together a shopping list to give to my tuner and for him to give me back a nice reliable 500bhp. My Car is stock at the minute. The only main purchase i have made so far is the ECU and i have went for Link.

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Old 10th January 2017, 09:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10th January 2017, 09:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What!! For 500hp!!??? Not at all......

Minimum would be (seeing as you're stock) :-

Exhaust
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Turbos
Fuel pump
Injectors


You dont have to go nuts here for 500hp. By the sounds of it you'll be buying all new but don't discount used parts if costs could be an issue...


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An R35 would do it lol
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An R35 would do it lol
Yeah, before it blows a gearbox....





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Haha believe me the pockets aren't deep, there has been a lot of saving to make this happen. I was thinking i needed turbos as well, what size is recommended? I don't really plunging any further than 500. I was thinking GT28s?

A 35 would be easier right enough!
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What!! For 500hp!!??? Not at all......

Minimum would be (seeing as you're stock) :-

Exhaust
Filters
Turbos
Fuel pump
Injectors
Oil cooler
Clutch
ECU
AFMs
Boost control
Cams
Head gasket
Plugs
Luck
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Oil cooler
Clutch
ECU
AFMs
Boost control
Cams
Head gasket
Plugs
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He has bought a Link G4 so ECU and therefore boost control are catered for....

You certainly dont NEED Oil cooler, head gasket, cams, AFM's or clutch for 500hp..

Plugs I'll concede but they wont exactly break the bank!!


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Old 10th January 2017, 10:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I was hoping i didn't need to go in as deep as head gasket and cams! Although luck is something i wish i could buy

I am coming from messing around with 2.0 golfs so i just want to be sure I'm doing everything right now that I'm on a bigger scale.

Also am i being ambitious with doing this at about 1.5bar? High boost is another fear factor!
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With the right setup, you'd not need more than 1.2 bar for 500hp
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Hang on what actual skyline do you have? Gtst or gtr? I'm guessing gtr judging by the mention of needing "turbos" ..?

If that's the case then you won't need much at all really beyond the turbos and some other bits maybe? But I think a lot of the guys are thinking about future proofing to push harder should you want to down the line.



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Bear in mind tho that something like -7 or -9 will give 500 too with a little more response than the -5. Hks turbos are good too. Alot of these things often pop up on the forum as ppl go to big single tubs too so keep watching

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To add to your list, a better oil pump that's not stock and cams
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Old 11th January 2017, 09:26 AM   #17 (permalink)
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A good remap will help prevent your pistons from melting you've got a very good ecu so try and get the best out of it. Where are you based? Are there any good tuners near you?
If you're looking for a 'bullet-proof' engine then the list can go on and on...
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This has probably been asked a thousand times but it would be good to see a few different takes on this.

Between now and the end of february ( ish ) I'm hoping to gather together a shopping list to give to my tuner and for him to give me back a nice reliable 500bhp. My Car is stock at the minute. The only main purchase i have made so far is the ECU and i have went for Link.

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My first question is what else needs doing. If you have an OEM oil pump and water pump they may need attention. How fit is the engine? How are the rubber hoses holding up?

In theory (as has been mentioned) 500 could be seen with you Link, some turbos, fuel upgrades and plugs.

But you may well need some remedial works. Things which aren't a problem now might be when you are pushing more power/boost.

Final thought - what is your usage model 500bhp on the street/track, hot climate etc
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I am also looking to break the 500bhp mark. Currently got

Filters
Exhaust
Downpipes
Turbos (-7s)
Clutch

Going to get a Link ECU to cover the mapping / boost control. Unsure about cams and headgasket. I understand why I would want to do them but not sure at what 'level' they really become necessary. Ie, if I keep on stock cams and headgasket, what are the downsides? Reliability? Future tuning? Response? (in the case of the cams I guess?)

Will probably put in a new fuel pump and perhaps injectors too just to make sure things are running happily, but afaik they aren't 100% necessary at this power level..?
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AFMs
Boost control
Cams
Head gasket
Plugs
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Choosing a more modern ecu you wouldn't need AFM's or boost controller as they would be included. i.e link and now many others

There are also many cars with over 500 bhp on stock cams and head gaskets. For the work I wouldn't change them.

To the OP I would also consider changing your target as you would change almost the same parts but with different spec's to get to close to 600 bhp. I.e Turbos and injectors
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