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ISJ · 10th August 2006, 08:21 AM

Ooh "Race Bred" you say.......

willrobdon · 10th August 2006, 10:23 AM

I read about a concept 350Z with two turbos, so surely if Nissan have produced a concept Z they wouldn't use the same engine in the new liner, would they???????

max_R34 · 10th August 2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willrobdon

I read about a concept 350Z with two turbos, so surely if Nissan have produced a concept Z they wouldn't use the same engine in the new liner, would they???????

u just said the L-word

kingsley · 26th August 2006, 11:18 AM

IMHO the biggest thing that lets the RB down is capacity; I've always thought it would have been better as a 3.5 or 4.0 litre. That way we could have big power and still get good response across the board and it would be less "all or nothing" as dan0h was describing.

I wouldn't want to lose the ability to rev though so I'd want the new engine to be quite oversquare as is the current RB. This would mean it would have to have a much wider bore. This ought to help in the power stakes anyway because valve area plays a large part in the power potential of an engine.

As a 6 cyl, a 100mm bore and 80mm stroke would give approx 3.8 litres but the block would need to be 100mm or so longer. A V8 would be far more compact and probably better for weight distribution. A V6 just doesn't feel right.

Besides, tuned V8 engines sound awesome.

Hedgehog Dodger · 26th August 2006, 02:37 PM

30 people have now said V6 is what the Skyline built its rep on!!!!!!

kingsley · 26th August 2006, 10:08 PM

Obviously they've never seen under the bonnet ...

gtrlux · 27th August 2006, 09:06 AM

I said it before, the one of you, who looks under that bonnet for me first, gets cash on his hand . . .

White_R32 · 27th August 2006, 03:14 PM

a 3.5~4.0 litre V8 with twin or even quad turbos would be worthy of gracing the new GTR!

If designed right, they can get a V8 to rev very well. You just have to look at V8 f1 engines hitting some 20k rpm. If we have one that does 10k for the road that would be just fantastic!!

Rain · 30th August 2006, 11:01 PM

F1 Engines get scrapped after the race, i wouldnt want to keep replacing my engine after driving around for a while :P

but i think now the rules have changed, and you can use your F1 engine for 2 races then you can change it :P

steve_GTR · 4th September 2006, 04:21 PM

Just to be different IMO two rb26 engines should be used to produce a V12 with quad turbo's . Will be a bit heavy but hell it would go!!

NuttyRB26 · 4th September 2006, 05:02 PM

VN38DETT? Just a thought, Don't like the V8 Idea. IMO it wouln't sound right in a GTR

gtrlux · 5th September 2006, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NuttyRB26

VN38DETT? Just a thought, Don't like the V8 Idea. IMO it wouln't sound right in a GTR

What about a VQ40DETT?

NuttyRB26 · 5th September 2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrlux

What about a VQ40DETT?

I like

Would sertenly have enough power.

oreo · 7th September 2006, 09:34 AM

Funny thread! I like the idea of an Inline V6 hahaha

Stick whatever in the new one as long as it's:

- Tourquey and fast
- Doesn't weigh a ton
- Sounds as good as an RB
- Easily tunable and over engineered as the RB26/30.

dan0h · 17th September 2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oreo

- Easily tunable and over engineered as the RB26/30.

I think we're all going to have a hard reality to face on this one - its almost a given that the car is going to have more controlling electronic hardware than the space shuttle. I wouldnt mind betting it'll be an ass to tune - initally atleast. Even as we speak despite the length of time it has been out, there still isnt a nice full replacement management system for the Z33 that can take control of the cams and throttle. The new GTR will be more of the same I'd guess.

View Poll Results: V8, Yay or Nay
Oh yea, i'd like to see what the V8 can do.	87	45.79%
No way. V6 is what the skyline built it's rep on.	68	35.79%
Won't make a difference	35	18.42%
Voters: 190. You may not vote on this poll

10th August 2006, 08:21 AM	#46 (permalink)
ISJ ISJ is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Worcestershire, UK Cars owned: R33 GTS-T Posts: 771	Ooh "Race Bred" you say....... __________________

10th August 2006, 10:23 AM	#47 (permalink)
willrobdon willrobdon is hardcore BNR32 Executive GTR Owners Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dorset Cars owned: BNR32 GTR , Mondeo ST 2.2 Posts: 2,583	I read about a concept 350Z with two turbos, so surely if Nissan have produced a concept Z they wouldn't use the same engine in the new liner, would they??????? __________________

26th August 2006, 11:18 AM	#49 (permalink)
kingsley kingsley is hairy GTR Register User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: West Surrey Cars owned: Skyline R33 GTR, MR2 Turbo Posts: 2,049	IMHO the biggest thing that lets the RB down is capacity; I've always thought it would have been better as a 3.5 or 4.0 litre. That way we could have big power and still get good response across the board and it would be less "all or nothing" as dan0h was describing. I wouldn't want to lose the ability to rev though so I'd want the new engine to be quite oversquare as is the current RB. This would mean it would have to have a much wider bore. This ought to help in the power stakes anyway because valve area plays a large part in the power potential of an engine. As a 6 cyl, a 100mm bore and 80mm stroke would give approx 3.8 litres but the block would need to be 100mm or so longer. A V8 would be far more compact and probably better for weight distribution. A V6 just doesn't feel right. Besides, tuned V8 engines sound awesome. __________________

26th August 2006, 02:37 PM	#50 (permalink)
Hedgehog Dodger Hedgehog Dodger is Pondering an RS6 or GTR GTR Register User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cheshire Cars owned: Renault Bipper Posts: 980	30 people have now said V6 is what the Skyline built its rep on!!!!!! __________________

26th August 2006, 10:08 PM	#51 (permalink)
kingsley kingsley is hairy GTR Register User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: West Surrey Cars owned: Skyline R33 GTR, MR2 Turbo Posts: 2,049	Obviously they've never seen under the bonnet ... __________________

27th August 2006, 09:06 AM	#52 (permalink)
gtrlux gtrlux is in red Skyline mode Registered user Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: JAPAN/Luxembourg Cars owned: Top Secret R32 / R34 sedan Posts: 6,790	I said it before, the one of you, who looks under that bonnet for me first, gets cash on his hand . . . __________________

27th August 2006, 03:14 PM	#53 (permalink)
White_R32 White_R32 is unaware they can edit their status Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 35	a 3.5~4.0 litre V8 with twin or even quad turbos would be worthy of gracing the new GTR! If designed right, they can get a V8 to rev very well. You just have to look at V8 f1 engines hitting some 20k rpm. If we have one that does 10k for the road that would be just fantastic!! __________________

30th August 2006, 11:01 PM	#54 (permalink)
Rain Rain is a Developing Circuit-Artist Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,459	F1 Engines get scrapped after the race, i wouldnt want to keep replacing my engine after driving around for a while :P but i think now the rules have changed, and you can use your F1 engine for 2 races then you can change it :P __________________

4th September 2006, 04:21 PM	#55 (permalink)
steve_GTR steve_GTR is unaware they can edit their status GTROC Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scotland Cars owned: R33 GTR Posts: 74	Just to be different IMO two rb26 engines should be used to produce a V12 with quad turbo's . Will be a bit heavy but hell it would go!! __________________

4th September 2006, 05:02 PM	#56 (permalink)
NuttyRB26 NuttyRB26 is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Harlow, Essex Posts: 432	VN38DETT? Just a thought, Don't like the V8 Idea. IMO it wouln't sound right in a GTR __________________

7th September 2006, 09:34 AM	#59 (permalink)
oreo oreo is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ash, nr Guildford Cars owned: Drifty R32 GTS-t 4 door Posts: 164	Funny thread! I like the idea of an Inline V6 hahaha Stick whatever in the new one as long as it's: - Tourquey and fast - Doesn't weigh a ton - Sounds as good as an RB - Easily tunable and over engineered as the RB26/30. __________________

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