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Daz · 11th November 2002, 08:05 PM

Hi Guys,

Being a GTI-R owner, most of the turbo's i hear about are just called "stage 1" ... through to "stage 6". There is a GTI-R being built in Europe that has an HKS3037 going on.

Now, can somebody please explain to me, what do all these different numbers mean ? I have read so many times about 2510's, 2530's, 2540's and so on...yet this means very little to me. Obviously the wheel sizes, etc. vary between them - or there wouldn't be different models...but what is the difference between them in terms of performance ?

Just trying to learn more about turbo's, etc. and trying to understand what you guys spend alot of time talking about !

Many thanks
Daz

hipogtr · 12th November 2002, 01:15 PM

Here's a simple explanation. Within a given turbo family (eg. HKS 25XX, 30XX, etc.), the numbers actually provide a reference point as to the turbo's relative size to others within the family. For example, the 2540 means the turbo has a 25 series turbine wheel & housing and a 40 series compressor wheel & housing. So, the 2540 turbo is designed to flow more than the 2530 turbo (ignoring wheel trim and A/R values constant). The same theory applies for a 3037 turbo compared to a 3040 turbo.

Unfortunately, once you introduce differing wheel trim and A/R values within the same turbo family, the comparisons become tougher. For example, you can get a 3037S turbo to flow more than a 3040 if you go large on the trim and A/R values for the 3037S and small on these values for the 3040.

Finally, don't mistake the first two numbers in the turbo series as the size of the turbine housing flange. You can have 25XX, 28XX, and 30XX series turbos that all use a T25 flange. Interesting, huh!

Hope this helps a little.

Cya O!

lightspeed · 12th November 2002, 01:55 PM

Daz,

I hate all that Stage this stage that horsesh1t!

I have e-mailed you (myselector address) a spreadsheet with some info I have collected over the years.

Al.

Daz · 12th November 2002, 04:25 PM

Cheers for the responces guys, most appreciated.

Al - have recieved your email ... many thanks for that.

Daz

11th November 2002, 08:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Daz GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the South Posts: 6,017	What does it all mean ? Hi Guys, Being a GTI-R owner, most of the turbo's i hear about are just called "stage 1" ... through to "stage 6". There is a GTI-R being built in Europe that has an HKS3037 going on. Now, can somebody please explain to me, what do all these different numbers mean ? I have read so many times about 2510's, 2530's, 2540's and so on...yet this means very little to me. Obviously the wheel sizes, etc. vary between them - or there wouldn't be different models...but what is the difference between them in terms of performance ? Just trying to learn more about turbo's, etc. and trying to understand what you guys spend alot of time talking about ! Many thanks Daz

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12th November 2002, 01:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
hipogtr GTROC Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Land of the Rising Sun Posts: 1,985	Here's a simple explanation. Within a given turbo family (eg. HKS 25XX, 30XX, etc.), the numbers actually provide a reference point as to the turbo's relative size to others within the family. For example, the 2540 means the turbo has a 25 series turbine wheel & housing and a 40 series compressor wheel & housing. So, the 2540 turbo is designed to flow more than the 2530 turbo (ignoring wheel trim and A/R values constant). The same theory applies for a 3037 turbo compared to a 3040 turbo. Unfortunately, once you introduce differing wheel trim and A/R values within the same turbo family, the comparisons become tougher. For example, you can get a 3037S turbo to flow more than a 3040 if you go large on the trim and A/R values for the 3037S and small on these values for the 3040. Finally, don't mistake the first two numbers in the turbo series as the size of the turbine housing flange. You can have 25XX, 28XX, and 30XX series turbos that all use a T25 flange. Interesting, huh! Hope this helps a little. Cya O!

12th November 2002, 01:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
lightspeed GTROC Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South-west Posts: 1,812	Daz, I hate all that Stage this stage that horsesh1t! I have e-mailed you (myselector address) a spreadsheet with some info I have collected over the years. Al.

12th November 2002, 04:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daz GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the South Posts: 6,017	Cheers for the responces guys, most appreciated. Al - have recieved your email ... many thanks for that. Daz