Rubbish american muscle cars!

[gtrlux]

Originally Posted by COSSYCam

Nissan use the best drivers as well. 9 out of 10 of the fastest roadcars round the 'Ring are RWD.

You're right, but thoses cars not have 1600kg. The Skyline is too heavy and aero is crap against a Ferrari for exemple, but again if an other 1600kg car with 500HP, same tires, and nearly same airflow dynamics can beat the Z-Tune with RWD on the Ring , then they should fire all the people at Nissan who worked for the last 16years on the special 4X4 from the GTRs up to the Z-Tune.
I am really looking forward to the new GTR, it really has the chance with the technologie of tomorrow to prove that the High-Tec 4X4 is superior to any RWD on a curvy track like the Ring. (when it's driven the way it ment to be)

The question I am asking myself for long is : If a F1 car would have an advanced 4X4 Attesa and SHicas, while keeping the initial weight, would it be faster then being RWD on a track?

[SkylineUSA]

Wastegate set for 10 psi (no sense risking the factory block). This is a street car and was built for driveability, not max power. Owner is very pleased with the results. Some day he'll build a Keith Black bottom end for this engine and turn up the boost, but until then this will do nicely.




Specifications:

Block: Factory Chrysler RB 440
Crankshaft: Eagle 4.15
Rods: Eagle H Beam
Pistons: Ross
Compression: 9.2
Heads: Edelbrock Performer RPM 88cc
Intake: Edelbrock Performer RPM
Cam: Comp solid roller
224/230 @.050, .577/.590, 114 LSA
Throttle Body: Accufab 80mm
Turbo: Garrett GT47-88, .96 A/R
Wastegate: HKS GT-II 60mm
Boost: 10.5 PSI
Exhaust: 5-inch downpipe, dual 3-inch, Magnaflows

Rear Wheel Dyno Numbers:

RPM RWHP RWTQ PSI MPH SEC
---- ------ ------ ---- ----- ----
1893 133.5 370.3 0.0 43.5 0.2
1951 143.8 387.0 0.1 44.5 0.3
2010 159.0 415.5 0.2 45.8 0.4
2063 170.4 433.7 0.3 46.9 0.5
2121 179.9 445.4 0.3 48.1 0.6
2175 187.9 453.8 0.4 49.2 0.7
2227 194.3 458.3 0.4 50.4 0.8
2279 202.0 465.6 0.5 51.6 0.9
2326 209.3 472.5 0.6 52.8 1.0
2382 216.4 477.1 0.7 54.0 1.1
2447 223.6 479.9 0.9 55.2 1.2
2500 232.7 488.9 1.0 56.6 1.3
2560 240.9 494.3 1.2 57.9 1.4
2620 250.0 501.1 1.3 59.3 1.5
2684 259.8 508.3 1.5 60.6 1.6
2742 272.8 522.4 1.9 61.9 1.7
2794 285.4 536.5 2.2 63.5 1.8
2881 298.5 544.2 2.5 65.0 1.9
2958 316.5 562.0 2.8 66.7 2.0
3027 332.0 576.0 3.3 68.2 2.1
3103 353.9 598.9 3.7 69.9 2.2
3186 378.7 624.2 4.1 71.7 2.3
3272 398.8 640.2 4.8 73.4 2.4
3359 425.7 665.6 5.3 75.4 2.5
3445 454.0 692.1 5.9 77.4 2.6
3538 482.5 716.2 6.5 79.3 2.7
3647 514.0 740.2 6.9 81.4 2.8
3751 547.5 766.6 7.4 83.6 2.9
3847 587.7 802.3 8.0 85.6 3.0
3946 618.8 823.8 8.3 87.8 3.1
4068 644.8 832.4 8.4 89.9 3.2
4166 668.5 842.7 8.6 92.2 3.3
4247 692.8 856.7 8.9 94.5 3.4
4339 720.2 871.6 9.1 96.7 3.5
4461 737.7 868.5 9.4 98.7 3.6
4545 751.4 868.4 9.6 101.0 3.7
4615 760.4 865.4 9.8 103.2 3.8
4725 765.0 850.2 9.9 105.2 3.9
4812 770.4 840.9 9.9 107.4 4.0
4914 779.5 833.1 10.1 109.5 4.1
4969 790.4 835.4 10.3 111.6 4.2
5046 798.4 830.9 10.5 113.5 4.3
5140 806.8 824.4 10.5 115.5 4.4
5239 814.0 816.1 10.5 117.5 4.5
5326 817.8 806.4 10.5 119.4 4.6
5411 825.4 801.1 10.5 121.4 4.7
5498 830.7 793.6 10.5 123.3 4.8
5585 835.4 785.6 10.5 125.2 4.9
5651 838.5 779.3 10.5 127.2 5.0
5716 838.8 770.7 10.5 128.9 5.1
5827 837.9 755.2 10.5 130.8 5.2
5858 833.6 747.4 10.5 132.6 5.3
5597 790.5 741.7 10.5 133.0 5.3
















This car will get 20mpg, believe it or not

All American cars are rubbish

[Drag'Mera]

GOD...look at the fu**ing Challenger!!!

Stick your Enzo, McLaren F1 or anything else you want right up your du**er, as that is the real definition of a beautiful car.

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by skyline69_uk

It doesn't work like that, if only it were that simple!

Due to a million and one things like heat loss due to surface area and inefficient burn on cool cylinder walls etc a big CC cylinder makes more sense and is more efficient BUT (there is always a but) as the cylinder gets bigger other factors mess this up like part throttle opening causing a low pressure volume to be overcome, weight and fiction of bigger parts and piston rings etc etc so it's not clear cut and simple by a VERY long way.

Engine design is a nightmare but I would have no doubt that the LS2 could make those mpgs especially with the DOD tech it uses.

There is not a lot of useful stuff on the net once you get to this level of wanting to know why but some stuff is here...

http://www.wdv.com/Hypercars/digiCam.html

that may be of use. You really need to buy a few books off Amazon etc to get to the bottom of the answers to "what is best" etc.

I understood that 250-300cc was the optimum size for a cylinder, as per F1. A 900cc cylinder is well away from that range.

Thanks for the link.

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by Drag'Mera

GOD...look at the fu**ing Challenger!!!

Stick your Enzo, McLaren F1 or anything else you want right up your du**er, as that is the real definition of a beautiful car.

I thought some of you might like to see some good ol' American Muscle

[AK-47]

Hertz Rental anyone?
Boring cars normally, you know to get you to the airport...

Shelby Mustang GT-H
That will do nicely

[Drag'Mera]

OH BABY!!!

As the old saying goes...

'There ain't no replacement for displacement'

Especially when it's blown...LOL!

Nice one.

Dave

P.S. I was in Florida back in April, and nearly died as I got to see an original 1970 426 Hemi' Cuda, in a strange bright green colour!

[Marky_GTSt]

Pics are great, But a sound recording would be better

or a vid if you have one.

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by Drag'Mera

Dave

P.S. I was in Florida back in April, and nearly died as I got to see an original 1970 426 Hemi' Cuda, in a strange bright green colour!

Dave,

Lime Green? I would imagine that they would go back to a factory color if it was a Hemi'

I love Mopars! Dream car is a '71 340 "Cuda. Like the car in Phantasim

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by Marky_GTSt

Pics are great, But a sound recording would be better

or a vid if you have one.

I will see what I can do.

Nothing beats a Hemi', over 320 mph in the 1/4.

American cars rubbish, whatever

[SkylineUSA]

Here is the web site.

http://users.anet.com/~sdurr/

Looking for video.

[SkylineUSA]

Here is a rubbish Hemi at idle http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...c32c1c4e8f.htm

Another rubbish Hemi doing a burn out http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...afba9e6932.htm

Hemi Cuda have fun on a road circuit http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...e64736b80e.htm

[SkylineUSA]

Here is blown Hemi Cuda http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...1ae05076cb.htm

Very Nice!

I cannot find any of the Challenger posted above. If I do, I will post it up.

Hemi Heaven http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...946db1b287.htm

[SkylineUSA]

OMFG http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...946db1b287.htm

This aint no V-Tec http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4ba0ed6292.htm

[R33_GTS-t]

If you're into that, this is a good site:

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/


http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea...vrolet_camaro/