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Ryan.g · 9th June 2012, 04:53 PM

Did you see my reply on the Syvecs forum?

S6 will do the job fine espically when there is an I/O Expander coming soon

tarmac terror · 9th June 2012, 05:46 PM

Hi Ryan. Yes, I got your reply

. I was informed of the expander and it sounds very exciting!! TBH, I'm seriously considering the S8 also although it might be a touch too much. However, as I said above, I'd rather buy an ECU once and be done with it and if that happens to cost more then so be it!. What I DONT want is to be forced to change in 5,6,7 yrs time for some reason e.g. running out of in/outputs or the ECU not supporting a feature such as paddleshift sequential box....
Since were on the subject, are there any issues with the S6 only having 1 knock input against the RB26's 2 sensors?? Obviously just the 1 is hooked up but have there been any problems encountered regarding this on GTR's running S6's??

TT

tarmac terror · 12th June 2012, 08:12 PM

So, I got my 4ltr swirl pot delivered yesterday and I decided to do a mock up of the install just to see if there were any glaring issues...

Other than the pumps being slightly too wide in the holder its all good. I did a bit of modification to the hole centres and brought them a bit closer together and all is good. I will be mounting the lot in the pic onto a sturdy bit of plywood (NOT the red bit in the pic LOL) with appropriate spacing blocks under both the tank and filters so everything is on a solid base and not hanging around....
Off to get some 1.2mm sheet metal on friday so will hopefully get around to modifying the boot floor and installing the cell in its own casing over the weekend!

TT

Mark@Abbey M/S · 12th June 2012, 08:49 PM

I would be worried about the lack of flexibility between all these units. No flex will cause vibration and possible cracking. I would try to run some pipe between the filters and pipes to stop vibration.

See you running one way valves in the feed lines , presuming to stop any feedback if a pump fails.

tarmac terror · 12th June 2012, 10:10 PM

Hi Mark, I would agree with you regarding the inflexibility of the system hence the reason for mounting it all onto an 18mm bit of ply

. The way I see it is that with the ply being so substantial, there will be no localised movement of ANY part of the system.....The hope is that the ply will have some natural vibration resistance....
I HAD toyed with the idea of using some hose but my main aim was to try and reduce the amount of joints (failure points) as far as possible.

Yeah, running check valves on both pumps. Thought it was a sensible precaution for the money

TT

Mark@Abbey M/S · 13th June 2012, 06:33 AM

TT,

maybe mount it on some alloy but I am not liking the idea of some ply wood in a race car.

tarmac terror · 13th June 2012, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark@Abbey M/S

TT,

maybe mount it on some alloy but I am not liking the idea of some ply wood in a race car.

Plywood it still very much alive in motorsport Mark. I was reading a book the other day and was amazed by some of the things folks still make from ply. I'll give the alloy some thought

TT

Mark@Abbey M/S · 13th June 2012, 08:37 AM

I know used to work in motorsport , front splitters are the main stuff still made from Jabroc.

But to mount fuel pumps etc etc I am sure a piece of alloy or carbon will work very well.

lightspeed · 13th June 2012, 07:34 PM

I'm with mark on the flexi hose - at least there's also some room for movement in a crash.

My 044's are mounted in the wheel well with twin Bosch Mk1 Golf Gti filters, swirl pot between the turrets next to the Red Top 30. All hoses BMRS.

tarmac terror · 18th June 2012, 08:21 PM

Having thought about it I have decided to go with the recommendation and put some hose between catchtank and filters. Ordered some hose and fittings so all is good...

Also feeling bored earlier and knocked up some MAF delete pipes...

Needed to be done at some point so rather than wait, I bit the bullet and got it done!!
Still waiting on local metal supplier to get some 1.2mm sheet in...once I have it, its full steam ahead with the boot floor fabrication and fuel system install..

TT

tarmac terror · 24th June 2012, 10:14 PM

Got to work over the weekend and attacked the boot floor.....

At long last my metal supplier came good and I bought a couple of 1sqM sheets of 1.2mm mild steel. One to weld into the hole to make the boot floor completely flat, the other to make a box to hold the fuel cell and lift pumps. I intend to fold the metal rather than weld panels together. I reckon if I'm smart with the folder it should all work out OK. Got some 30x30 box section coming as well which I'm going to weld across the rear of the chassis rails for extra support.

I think this is going to all work out really well. Weight-wise I dont think there's loads in it.....the new setup is probably a wee bit lighter but if nothing else makes it tidier and more simplified in the rear. Good opportunity to mount the cell a bit further forward which can only be a good thing for mass distribution!!

TT

tarmac terror · 30th June 2012, 11:11 PM

Been out in the garage all day and managed to get the boot floor plated and partly welded which I was pleased at.
Also measured and made a cradle for the fuel cell to sit in....

This will contain the cell and the two Red Top lift pumps. Obviously need to cut out a bit of the bottom to accomodate the sump but thats not a hassle. Similarly, because of the fact that the Facet pumps have the filter service ports at the 'bottom', I'm going to have to provide a service hatch for each so changing filters doesnt necessetate the removal of the pumps. Cheers Facet!!!!

TT

tarmac terror · 10th July 2012, 11:17 PM

Been buying some more parts for the collection!!! Now have a Tomei sump baffle which will be fitted to my spare sump with the 4.3 CWP. A pair of new front inner balljoints were fitted today so now EVERYTHING has been changed on the front suspension other than the anti roll bar links which will be getting replaced with some adjustable rose-jointed ones.

I've managed to secure a Ross Tuffbond RACE MJ damper which I've wanted for AGES!! Will help facilitate the move to dry sump at a later date as Ross do a neat little dry sump pump drive which will bolt straight on.

Been having some issues with the mounting of the Facet lift pumps in my little container I made. Seems the fittings I want to use are too long when used with the 1/4NPT to -8AN adapters fitted to the pumps. I've now sourced some 1/4 NPT 1/2" barbs which should solve the problem (easier seen than explained!)

I'll be taking more pics soon so stay tuned!

TT

cobrAA · 19th July 2012, 06:52 AM

May I ask you to upload 1 or 2 more pictures of the front cannard fitted, they seems to sit quite high on the bumper? would it be possible to make them sit a bit lower without looking stupid?

thanks a lot!

tarmac terror · 12th August 2012, 05:40 PM

So, been on holiday recently and thought I'd better crack on with all things garage-related..

Been busy making enhancements to the fuel cell cradle (above) so that it will actually do the job! FIrstly I decided that, instead of cutting and fabricating a sump in the cradle to mirror the sump in the fuel cell, I would sit the cell in the cradle as-is with an appropriately sized spacer under the rear of the cell. This means that the cell is level and theres no added hassle of extra fabrication.
Needed some retaining sraps so bought some 25mm wide x 3mm thick mild steel strip which I bent into shape and attached at the rear with small hinges to allow for the removal of the cell if needs be. Also made 2 'service hatches' in the bottom rear corners of the cradle to allow for removal of the filters in the lift pumps (mentioned above). All-in-all, its come out really well and I'm well pleased. The pics below show it sitting in the hole in the floor...obviously the next step is to weld it in properly and then install lift pumps and the rest of the boot mounted fuel gear....

2 shots from the top showing the cradle in place.

Shot from underneath

Shot from underneath showing service hatches open

Shot from top showing service hatches open

Shots with fuel cell in place.

Cant wait to get it welded in (tomorrow hopefully) and get the cell and lift pumps mounted permanently... Bought a 37degree flaring tool so will be buying some 1/2" aluminium hardline and AN flare ends and making up the 2 rear-front feed pipes and the return line.

All is good in the world....well, garage, at least!!

TT

9th June 2012, 04:53 PM	#256 (permalink)
Ryan.g Ryan.g is never at home! GTR Register User Join Date: Jul 2007 Cars owned: R35GTR, Toyota Supra Posts: 293	Did you see my reply on the Syvecs forum? S6 will do the job fine espically when there is an I/O Expander coming soon __________________

9th June 2012, 05:46 PM	#257 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Hi Ryan. Yes, I got your reply . I was informed of the expander and it sounds very exciting!! TBH, I'm seriously considering the S8 also although it might be a touch too much. However, as I said above, I'd rather buy an ECU once and be done with it and if that happens to cost more then so be it!. What I DONT want is to be forced to change in 5,6,7 yrs time for some reason e.g. running out of in/outputs or the ECU not supporting a feature such as paddleshift sequential box.... Since were on the subject, are there any issues with the S6 only having 1 knock input against the RB26's 2 sensors?? Obviously just the 1 is hooked up but have there been any problems encountered regarding this on GTR's running S6's?? TT __________________

12th June 2012, 08:12 PM	#258 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	So, I got my 4ltr swirl pot delivered yesterday and I decided to do a mock up of the install just to see if there were any glaring issues... Other than the pumps being slightly too wide in the holder its all good. I did a bit of modification to the hole centres and brought them a bit closer together and all is good. I will be mounting the lot in the pic onto a sturdy bit of plywood (NOT the red bit in the pic LOL) with appropriate spacing blocks under both the tank and filters so everything is on a solid base and not hanging around.... Off to get some 1.2mm sheet metal on friday so will hopefully get around to modifying the boot floor and installing the cell in its own casing over the weekend! TT __________________

12th June 2012, 08:49 PM	#259 (permalink)
Mark@Abbey M/S Mark@Abbey M/S is looking forward to racing on the circuits again soon GTR Register Trader Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The workshop... Cars owned: Skylines... Posts: 3,285	I would be worried about the lack of flexibility between all these units. No flex will cause vibration and possible cracking. I would try to run some pipe between the filters and pipes to stop vibration. See you running one way valves in the feed lines , presuming to stop any feedback if a pump fails. __________________ Servicing/tuning all Skyline models since 1990 Ecutek/Cobb/Syvecs and Up Rev approved tuners In house Dynapack dyno Up to date diagnostics for all Nissan,s Consult 1/2/3 Laser 4 wheel alignment equipment Corner weight scales for trackset up Tuner of the fastest Rb26 powered car in Europe Any information needed give us a ring or mail us To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12th June 2012, 10:10 PM	#260 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Hi Mark, I would agree with you regarding the inflexibility of the system hence the reason for mounting it all onto an 18mm bit of ply . The way I see it is that with the ply being so substantial, there will be no localised movement of ANY part of the system.....The hope is that the ply will have some natural vibration resistance.... I HAD toyed with the idea of using some hose but my main aim was to try and reduce the amount of joints (failure points) as far as possible. Yeah, running check valves on both pumps. Thought it was a sensible precaution for the money TT __________________

13th June 2012, 06:33 AM	#261 (permalink)
Mark@Abbey M/S Mark@Abbey M/S is looking forward to racing on the circuits again soon GTR Register Trader Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The workshop... Cars owned: Skylines... Posts: 3,285	TT, maybe mount it on some alloy but I am not liking the idea of some ply wood in a race car. __________________ Servicing/tuning all Skyline models since 1990 Ecutek/Cobb/Syvecs and Up Rev approved tuners In house Dynapack dyno Up to date diagnostics for all Nissan,s Consult 1/2/3 Laser 4 wheel alignment equipment Corner weight scales for trackset up Tuner of the fastest Rb26 powered car in Europe Any information needed give us a ring or mail us To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

13th June 2012, 08:37 AM	#263 (permalink)
Mark@Abbey M/S Mark@Abbey M/S is looking forward to racing on the circuits again soon GTR Register Trader Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The workshop... Cars owned: Skylines... Posts: 3,285	I know used to work in motorsport , front splitters are the main stuff still made from Jabroc. But to mount fuel pumps etc etc I am sure a piece of alloy or carbon will work very well. __________________ Servicing/tuning all Skyline models since 1990 Ecutek/Cobb/Syvecs and Up Rev approved tuners In house Dynapack dyno Up to date diagnostics for all Nissan,s Consult 1/2/3 Laser 4 wheel alignment equipment Corner weight scales for trackset up Tuner of the fastest Rb26 powered car in Europe Any information needed give us a ring or mail us To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

13th June 2012, 07:34 PM	#264 (permalink)
lightspeed lightspeed is building an HKS Step 3 2.8 :) GTROC Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South-west Cars owned: Project BNR32 Posts: 2,763	I'm with mark on the flexi hose - at least there's also some room for movement in a crash. My 044's are mounted in the wheel well with twin Bosch Mk1 Golf Gti filters, swirl pot between the turrets next to the Red Top 30. All hoses BMRS. __________________

18th June 2012, 08:21 PM	#265 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Having thought about it I have decided to go with the recommendation and put some hose between catchtank and filters. Ordered some hose and fittings so all is good... Also feeling bored earlier and knocked up some MAF delete pipes... Needed to be done at some point so rather than wait, I bit the bullet and got it done!! Still waiting on local metal supplier to get some 1.2mm sheet in...once I have it, its full steam ahead with the boot floor fabrication and fuel system install.. TT __________________

24th June 2012, 10:14 PM	#266 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Got to work over the weekend and attacked the boot floor..... At long last my metal supplier came good and I bought a couple of 1sqM sheets of 1.2mm mild steel. One to weld into the hole to make the boot floor completely flat, the other to make a box to hold the fuel cell and lift pumps. I intend to fold the metal rather than weld panels together. I reckon if I'm smart with the folder it should all work out OK. Got some 30x30 box section coming as well which I'm going to weld across the rear of the chassis rails for extra support. I think this is going to all work out really well. Weight-wise I dont think there's loads in it.....the new setup is probably a wee bit lighter but if nothing else makes it tidier and more simplified in the rear. Good opportunity to mount the cell a bit further forward which can only be a good thing for mass distribution!! TT __________________

30th June 2012, 11:11 PM	#267 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Been out in the garage all day and managed to get the boot floor plated and partly welded which I was pleased at. Also measured and made a cradle for the fuel cell to sit in.... This will contain the cell and the two Red Top lift pumps. Obviously need to cut out a bit of the bottom to accomodate the sump but thats not a hassle. Similarly, because of the fact that the Facet pumps have the filter service ports at the 'bottom', I'm going to have to provide a service hatch for each so changing filters doesnt necessetate the removal of the pumps. Cheers Facet!!!! TT __________________

10th July 2012, 11:17 PM	#268 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	Been buying some more parts for the collection!!! Now have a Tomei sump baffle which will be fitted to my spare sump with the 4.3 CWP. A pair of new front inner balljoints were fitted today so now EVERYTHING has been changed on the front suspension other than the anti roll bar links which will be getting replaced with some adjustable rose-jointed ones. I've managed to secure a Ross Tuffbond RACE MJ damper which I've wanted for AGES!! Will help facilitate the move to dry sump at a later date as Ross do a neat little dry sump pump drive which will bolt straight on. Been having some issues with the mounting of the Facet lift pumps in my little container I made. Seems the fittings I want to use are too long when used with the 1/4NPT to -8AN adapters fitted to the pumps. I've now sourced some 1/4 NPT 1/2" barbs which should solve the problem (easier seen than explained!) I'll be taking more pics soon so stay tuned! TT __________________

19th July 2012, 06:52 AM	#269 (permalink)
cobrAA cobrAA is unaware they can edit their status GTR Register User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada. Posts: 209	May I ask you to upload 1 or 2 more pictures of the front cannard fitted, they seems to sit quite high on the bumper? would it be possible to make them sit a bit lower without looking stupid? thanks a lot! __________________

12th August 2012, 05:40 PM	#270 (permalink)
tarmac terror tarmac terror is feeling the Syvecs love..... New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through! Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine X5 4.8iS; Replica Renault Megane 1.6 Posts: 5,300	So, been on holiday recently and thought I'd better crack on with all things garage-related.. Been busy making enhancements to the fuel cell cradle (above) so that it will actually do the job! FIrstly I decided that, instead of cutting and fabricating a sump in the cradle to mirror the sump in the fuel cell, I would sit the cell in the cradle as-is with an appropriately sized spacer under the rear of the cell. This means that the cell is level and theres no added hassle of extra fabrication. Needed some retaining sraps so bought some 25mm wide x 3mm thick mild steel strip which I bent into shape and attached at the rear with small hinges to allow for the removal of the cell if needs be. Also made 2 'service hatches' in the bottom rear corners of the cradle to allow for removal of the filters in the lift pumps (mentioned above). All-in-all, its come out really well and I'm well pleased. The pics below show it sitting in the hole in the floor...obviously the next step is to weld it in properly and then install lift pumps and the rest of the boot mounted fuel gear.... 2 shots from the top showing the cradle in place. Shot from underneath Shot from underneath showing service hatches open Shot from top showing service hatches open Shots with fuel cell in place. Cant wait to get it welded in (tomorrow hopefully) and get the cell and lift pumps mounted permanently... Bought a 37degree flaring tool so will be buying some 1/2" aluminium hardline and AN flare ends and making up the 2 rear-front feed pipes and the return line. All is good in the world....well, garage, at least!! TT __________________

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