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Old 14th October 2007, 11:05 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Hi Rob

The OS 3L will rev to 9000 revs where your RB30 wont
I was told at totb that Ludders rev limit in his R34 was 7200 revs
what use is that to anyone on a drag strip
that extra 1800 revs will make the OS 3L feel much better.
Sorry Tommy F, your not comparing apples with apples and what your saying is just not true, I told Ludders at least 8250rpm would be fine, no point revving the nuts off it if the power is falling away after that.

Who said my forged bottom end won't rev to 9k?
Maybe I've said, for the motors we have done so far, there is no need to rev to 9k as plenty of power can be made well before then.

We run our own stock internal bottom ends to 8500 in track race cars and they are lasting years although I do usually recommend to customers that if they have one of our totally stock internal bottom ends they stick to around 7200-7300rpm just for everyone's piece of mind and we have had a 100% success rate.

Its great if people want to discuss things but please get your facts straight before making bold comments.

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Old 14th October 2007, 11:11 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Old 14th October 2007, 11:18 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Ok Rob

Exactly how many of your forged bottom ends do you have out there ???

I was told that Ludders engine had a std rb30 crank in it,is this true

With the money he has spent already and now the cost of sending the car to you
with shipping both ways he could have bought 2 OSG kits

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Old 14th October 2007, 11:39 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Tommy F.

I would say about 20-25 forged bottom ends and countless stock internal bottom ends, no failers ever.

Yes, Ludders engine has a stock crank, is there a problem with that?
I suppose your going to say that a stock crank is no good for higher rpm and 1000+hp? Be carefull, check before you speak

Your making out like Ludders didn't get what he asked for from us and that he's sending it here as some sort of warranty repair or for us to sort it out as it didn't do what he wanted it to do? Once again, wrong.

I'm not getting into how much he may have been charged for the work done in the UK, none of mine or your business.

There has been no problems with the bottom end or any parts I supplied him, his motor made exactly the power it was intended to make and he now wants to go even faster so has chosen to send his car here for a completely different engine combination, is there a problem with that too?

You make out an OSG is some majical bottom end that as soon as you have one, your going to make massive reliable power, did you ever consider that, in an engine, the bottom end has the least to do with the amount of power your going to make and having an OSG bottom end may give you a bit more strength at higher rpm/outputs and thats about it?

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Old 14th October 2007, 11:49 PM   #80 (permalink)
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what use is 7200 revs to anyone on a drag strip
This is what use 7200rpm with a R.I.P.S long motor that costs 2k pound is, 10.2 in a street car, stock gearbox too:

http://www.ripsltd.com/performance/video/RIPS_GTS4.mpg

Please post a video of your car at the strip and a spec sheet of the engine internals and see who has the best value for money.

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Old 15th October 2007, 12:17 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Sorry what i meant to ask you was how many of your engines have forged cranks
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Old 15th October 2007, 12:33 AM   #82 (permalink)
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None, as a stock one is more than up to the task of coping with the engines we have done.
It is well known that stock 26 cranks will hold 12,000rpm+ and 1400hp and a customer of mine with vast experience in big power 26's has just ordered one of our billet mains RB30s, he will specificly run a stock RB30 crank and intends to rev to 11,000+ and make more than 1400hp, I'm sure he would not do this unless he was confident the crank would cope.

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Old 15th October 2007, 04:36 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Just goes to show theres a lot more that can be done to the RB30 that I haven't done, YET.
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Old 15th October 2007, 05:56 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I cant believe how this thread has turned out!

Here some guy has his pride and joy up for everyone else to enjoy, and along come some jealous sour ***** to bag out a company that none of them have had any dealings with!

How petty can you get! Give it rest!

Back to topic please...
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Old 15th October 2007, 06:09 AM   #85 (permalink)
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I cant believe how this thread has turned out!

Here some guy has his pride and joy up for everyone else to enjoy, and along come some jealous sour ***** to bag out a company that none of them have had any dealings with!

How petty can you get! Give it rest!

Back to topic please...
Well said that man.
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Old 15th October 2007, 12:18 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I cant believe how this thread has turned out!

Here some guy has his pride and joy up for everyone else to enjoy, and along come some jealous sour ***** to bag out a company that none of them have had any dealings with!

How petty can you get! Give it rest!

Back to topic please...
Inclined to agree. This threads about Pupsis car and shouldn't turn into a OS Giken RB30 vs Nissan/Holden RB30 debate. Thats already been done already on another thread and if people really want to continue then it would be politer to do it elsewhere.

Nice level of fabrication and preparation from the RIPS crew as usual.

Be interesting to see what sort of power it produces and what the boost/power/torque curves look like.
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Old 15th October 2007, 02:28 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I cant believe how this thread has turned out!

Here some guy has his pride and joy up for everyone else to enjoy, and along come some jealous sour ***** to bag out a company that none of them have had any dealings with!

How petty can you get! Give it rest!

Back to topic please...
Totally agree. Sour grapes if you ask me.

Unfortunately it seems to be the way of things that people struggle to remain positive about anyones achievements, either personally with their motor or their business successes.

Keep up the great work Rob, its always a delight to read your posts and see your work. You add more than most on the forum and deliver more than most professionally. Leaves need to be taken from your books my man.
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Old 15th October 2007, 09:47 PM   #89 (permalink)
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What a load of Shite i am reading here.

12000 rpm on a stock crank??? Dream on. Please that is utter shite talk.

Sorry for the attitude problem from myself in the above comments.

But if the standard crank could achieve so much why the fook are we all buying Jun/hks/trust cranks????

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Old 15th October 2007, 10:11 PM   #90 (permalink)
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But if the standard crank could achieve so much why the fook are we all buying Jun/hks/trust cranks????

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maybe they are better balanced than the nissan crank, lighter?
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