GTR at goodwood.

[GTRJack]

All those pics! Come on where're the videos?

[Pugwash]

It seems that the official 350zukOC have more exclusive info to this launch. They had exclusive pics weeks ago when invited to the tests at the ring, they got exclusive talks with the driver and the big cheif ages ago. along with launch dates.

Can anyone give me a good reason to join the GTROC. I am only interested in the new GTR, not the old, so what benefits, over the knowledge from the 350zukOC will I get?

[SPEED MERCHANT]

Originally Posted by Fuggles

The comments on my desire to keep information priveleged is completely unfounded and anyone that knows me would find the suggestion ridiculous.

I agree with that statement as John was telling everyone at the BROMLEY PAGEANT who would listen all about the day, specs he had learned & what he'd seen etc. So I think a few on here need to be a little more literate.

As for the paddle shifts ... yes it does

[Blow Dog]

Originally Posted by Pugwash

It seems that the official 350zukOC have more exclusive info to this launch. They had exclusive pics weeks ago when invited to the tests at the ring, they got exclusive talks with the driver and the big cheif ages ago. along with launch dates.

Can anyone give me a good reason to join the GTROC. I am only interested in the new GTR, not the old, so what benefits, over the knowledge from the 350zukOC will I get?

They weren't invited to the tests, they happened to be at the ring when Nissan went on another publicity stunt ride (I was also there on the same day).

The 350z club just went papparazzi style on Nissan ass.

[Scott]

As usual a good thread crapped on nice one guys!!!

I would not mind it Nissan had given us a £1000 grant to hand out to all GTR owners, and we have given it all to our members, robbing the rest of you. It's just a few nice hi res photos we had plans on doing something special for our members, who we are elected to look after.

And now look, it's turned into a slagging match, (again ), as people think they have the right to the photo's I personally took with my personal camera at an event I personally paid the better part of £100 to attend.

And before anyone says, and decent person would share, I do more than enough sharing/work for this club and forum spending at LEAST 3-4 hours a day, every day for almost 5 years trying to develop a club, jepodising my f**king marriage to a wife I love who is sick of the GTROC, only for people to slag it off as they once organised a few meets.

Unfortunately the voice we are not hearing at the moment is the 350-400 GTROC members, who are thinking, "Nice one, I'll be getting a few nice pictures through the post in a couple of weeks".


And as for:

Originally Posted by jae

Asking Paul to not post information and then letting him take the flak for a while was contemptuous and rude. He only posted photos because he was getting hammered - what sort of bloke lets a good friend take that sort of shit for him?

For your information Jae, John was out all yesterday and last night and did not see you guys crapping up this thread!!!!! For a nice bloke, you really disgust me at times Jae with you opinionated ignorance!!!!!!



At the end of the day, these are only photos everyone, !!!!

[Howsie]

I was looking forward to seeing the photo's of the new GT-R on this thread, but alias no - personally I think displaying them on an inferior medium is not going to do the car justice. If they are so precious, why not just set up a members only section and post them up there. We should be the first, not last...

Where are the pictures? I need pictures. SHOW ME THE PICTURES!!!



I must be over tired. Busy weekend and all that!

[Robbie 733]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

I mean FFS, who goes out at Goodwood with camouflage

Originally Posted by Daz

Excuse me Mr Dog,.......... but can you see me in this photo ??????


And No, that's a Hodgie 'look-a-like' stalking round the back ....

[Daz]

Originally Posted by Scott

And before anyone says, and decent person would share, I do more than enough sharing/work for this club and forum spending at LEAST 3-4 hours a day, every day for almost 5 years trying to develop a club, jepodising my f**king marriage to a wife I love who is sick of the GTROC, only for people to slag it off as they once organised a few meets.
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Scott - if you don't mind, I'd like to pick up on a few points here.

Firstly, I don't think anyone is questioning the amount of work you put in behind the scenes (nor John for that matter). I am sure you do put in some crazy hours for this club and I take my hat off to you for having that dedication. I do feel though that if you are finding the need to put that amount of time in every day of the week then you clearly need some assistance and it would seem sensible to me to have a position on the board to take some of that workload from you. Obviously that is for the board / club members to discuss, but to be putting any strain on your marriage because of time spent on the club is bonkers. An hour a night isn't so bad...but 3-4 hours EVERY evening is crazy.

I guess the other part is directed towards me...as I was responsible for organising meets in this area. In my opinion the situation was handled badly and I do not appear to be the only one who has this opinion (although you feel the need to single me out - perhaps you see me as inferior to Bean, DCD or Blowdog and easier to go off at....but whatever). The people that have shown their disatisfaction on this thread INCLUDE members of the club and not just non-members, so you ARE actually "hearing the voice" of club members - perhaps you are choosing to ignore that ?

This is a public forum, the car was at a public show and I am entitled to express my opinion (whether you like it or not). Yes I may have "only organised a few meets" in my role as Regional Rep (MANY Skyline only meets as well as the largest FREE Japanese car pub meet the country has seen - for 6 years, raising money for charity, working with many different clubs, liaising with local authorities, police, the village in which the meet was held over a number of months each time), but that doesn't mean my opinion is any less valid.

If you wanted to ensure the members of the club saw this information first, then you could have made it VERY, VERY simple. You should have put a thread in the members only section posting pictures and passing on the information about the car. Nothing should have been said on the public forum. Then a couple of weeks later you could have passed the information down - knowing that club members had seen it first.

As it is, the bulk of people have found out information from different clubs and seen pictures of the car from different clubs - which as Cem has already pointed out is rather embarressing.

Why not listen to what people are saying, rectify the situation and learn from what has happened ?

[Daz]

Originally Posted by Robbie 733

Excuse me Mr Dog,.......... but can you see me in this photo ??????


And No, that's a Hodgie 'look-a-like' stalking round the back ....

You could have painted the new GTR luminous pink and parked it behind them and I wouldn't have spotted it !

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Daz

....Then a couple of weeks later you could have passed the information down - knowing that club members had seen it first.

Originally Posted by Daz

....
As it is, the bulk of people have found out information from different clubs and seen pictures of the car from different clubs - which as Cem has already pointed out is rather embarrassing.

Daz, if we did the fromer, as you suggest, the later would still have happened!!!! LOL

Originally Posted by Daz

...."hearing the voice" of club members - perhaps you are choosing to ignore that ?

Originally Posted by Daz

....Why not listen to what people are saying, rectify the situation and learn from what has happened ?

We did!!! We listened to YOU and YOU asked for more for the members other than trackday!!!!!! Remember???????????????????????


Daz, These are photos of a car you have already seen. Please get over it!

[SPEED MERCHANT]

Having read this whole thread now it all this CR*P & the general direction of downhill seems to have started from DCD's comment followed by after a few of Pauls posts DAZ ...

I agree with SCOTT, this whole thing was crapped on ...

[jae]

Originally Posted by Scott

As usual a good thread crapped on nice one guys!!!

For your information Jae, John was out all yesterday and last night and did not see you guys crapping up this thread!!!!! For a nice bloke, you really disgust me at times Jae with you opinionated ignorance!!!!!!

Opinionated? Yes. Ignorance? Hardly. I work from what I see. And I see people eagerly requesting information on the new GTR that has been withheld for marginally justifiable but poorly presented reasons. I also see a chap I have a lot of time for getting a lot of grief thrown at him for honouring a request from a friend. The fact that said friend was unavailable does not change the fact that the initial line "What do you want to know" should NEVER have been posted as John knew he could not deliver. This is the crux of the issue from my side.

Finally, we agree on one item; a thoroughly crapped up thread.

[Trev]

If I'm honest, all this crap on this thread is stupid

As pointed out by my other half, the bloody car looks RUBBISH! A poor cross between the new Audi TT and a 350Z

I know why Nissan keep it covered, it's ****ing embarrassing!

[RobGalley]

The thread could easily be lifted by someone (in the know!) posting "some nuggets" of information and/or "some exclusive pics", with all credit going to the GTROC....

...and then it could be a healthy discussion about the brakes, 4wd system, engine, price, its lap times at the ring....you name it!

Unfortunately we dont know what we dont know

[jae]

Originally Posted by Trev

If I'm honest, all this crap on this thread is stupid

As pointed out by my other half, the bloody car looks RUBBISH! A poor cross between the new Audi TT and a 350Z

I know why Nissan keep it covered, it's ****ing embarrassing!

Stand in the way of a good bitchfest.

It's a dog ugly mutha, but hey, it'll sell on past reputation alone.