GTR at goodwood.

[Daz]

How was the club given a "hot tip off" when other forums have photo's of the car, my mate has photo's of the car and the fact it was going to be there has been known throughout the week ? (it was even advertised on the Goodwood website).

Posting photo's of the car is not giving anything away. The fact you may now know more information about it I'm not interested in - chances of me owning one are nada. What I am interested in seeing is some good quality pictures - taken by friends (with the car in the UK) rather than some random spy shots from some random photographer (in another country).

When John comes out with :

Well everyone, what do you want to know? Scott, Paul and I have taken quite a few pictures! Chatted to the Chief Designer and even got a private interview with the driver (on video).

what do you expect from people ?

It's not much of a Skyline community when people are holding back on the information they have obtained about the latest incarnation of the car is it.

I also do not think that this kind of thing will make people want to join the OC either...I think it'd have the opposite effect.

[Tommy F]

the things you lot will try to get some paid up members lol

you still hardcore PMSL

[RobGalley]

Totally agree with Daz.

Attitude like this means I will never bother to join the GTROC...

[Scott]

Daz,

And to think, YOU sent me a PM complaining about value for money the GTROC offered, and now you are moaning about this.
We took this on board and this is one of our replies. It was your choice not to renew and you made it!!!!

As for our Tip-Off, you have no idea what our comunication with Nissan was about, sure the 'public' new it would be there, but that was not it.

Originally Posted by RobGalley

Totally agree with Daz.

Attitude like this means I will never bother to join the GTROC...

Sorry, that is your choice.

[Daz]

Scott - if I was a club member, I would not expect this kind of thing to be kept exclusive to the club, far from it. This is the kind of thing I would expect to be opened out to the whole Skyline community - after all, it's why we frequent this place...to discuss the Skyline (in all it's guises). I certainly wouldn't expect to pay to be privy to some information.

My gripe about the OC was the simple fact that as a non-track day go-er and as someone who only uses one garage for ALL of the parts on his car (and therefore has no benefit in discount tyres from somewhere or discounts from demon tweeks or whatever) then the OC offered me nothing. My point in that PM was that IN MY OPINION there should be more done to offer people in my position more - so that we would want to join the club and want to contribute and help it grow.

Having yourself and John withholding information does not in any way make me want to re-join. I was always very keen to promote and represent the club and to a certain extent I still do - even as a non-member.

I still stand by what I said earlier...if others had got these "exclusives" you and John would be asking for it to be posted up.

[RobGalley]

...well...Johns opening comment is "what would you like to know?"

So... I would like to know whatever you know!?

If you are not going to give out the information, why announce it on the public area of the GTR register?!

[nismo2]

Doing this just means people will go elsewhere. I see now that paid subscriptions are more important than making current members (be it that they are members of the OC or not) here happy. I'm not really pleasant with the attitude here, trying to recruit members to join in exchange for a few pictures and information is childish. I'm not going to pay for that, I would pay to be more involved with the community. And even If I didn't pay, I could say Im part of this. I would re-evaluate things and as someone who has been to many forums and managed some, I would tell you that keeping current members who keep coming back for years is much more important than someone here who just pays an annual fee and calls themselves part of the Club. Many people here who have been posting for years and are much more involved than someone who doesn't ever come here but calls themselves part of the club (just because they pay and receive a sticker and a magazine). Disappointed to say the least.

[Daz]

Originally Posted by Scott

As for our Tip-Off, you have no idea what our comunication with Nissan was about, sure the 'public' new it would be there, but that was not it.

Just to pick up on this as you edited your post.

Did you share this "tip off" with all club members ? Do you share any of your communications with all of the members of the club ? Or was it another 'perk' of being in a board position on the OC ?

Sounds bitchy, but this is another example of certain people in the club "doing alright thankyou very much".

[Scott]

Daz,

Yes it does sound bitchy!!! LOL

We were asked to say NOTHING by our 'contacts'

You respect Paul for doing as he was asked, but not the GTROC for looking after its members!!! I can't figure that out.

[paul creed]

Some images. Should stop you all slating me for 5 mins at least.

[Daz]

I'm disappointed in myself for carrying this on..but here I go anyway ! (lol)

If you were asked to say nothing by your contacts then John should not be making posts asking members of this forum what they want to know. You should have said absolutely nothing and then just printed it. If it was an attempt to get more people to join the club just so they could get your information then i'd be surprised if it works.

It was all well and good when Dino was posting pictures up for us all from Japan - when he got a chance to spend time alone with the car taking photo's. It wasn't a problem for him to post them up for us all back then - and tell us all about the car, but all of a sudden things have changed.

[paul creed]

Originally Posted by Daz

Sounds bitchy, but this is another example of certain people in the club "doing alright thankyou very much".

Actually Daz, i personally have to disagree on this. Scott, for one, i know does not attend as many events as he'd like because he purely cannot afford it, and for the amount of time he puts in to the merchandise, doesn't get any perks or privaledges.
John is probably one of the most unselfish, giving people i know. He was actually very apologetic for being the only one to be sent a VIP from Nissan. I don't know any other person on this entire forum who spends the amount of time and own personal money to benefit the club and juggle it around a full time and high pressure job. Not only that, but being without a job for 6 months and still striving to arrange meets,events,club issues etc, isnt what i would call "doing alright thankyou very much".
If anything, i benefit the most, but only from peoples unselfishness. You should try it sometime Daz, its quite a rewarding feeling.

[Daz]

Paul - I am in no way slating you. As previously stated I felt sorry that you were put in that position. Please do not take my comments as a personal attack on you.

As always your photo's are fantastic, and I thank you for sharing them.

[andreasgtr]

Paul, thank you for sharing these pictures.
I think that's enough as all can see the car is still partly covered, so nothing new in that sense.

[Daz]

Originally Posted by paul creed

If anything, i benefit the most, but only from peoples unselfishness. You should try it sometime Daz, its quite a rewarding feeling.

I'll take that on-board next time I'm organising something and all of the money raised goes to charity, or when I'm organising free events that take several months of preparation - done in my own time, with no benefit to me whilst also holding down a highly stressful full-time job.