GTR at goodwood.

[GTRJack]

Lots of people flocking around the car and NO interior shots?

[paul creed]

The interior was not the real deal. I dare say it will differ a great deal to the production car, but yes, there were a few shots, albeit quick ones, as they didnt want it being photographed.

[Chuck_H]

[Chuck_H]

[Fuggles]

It was very difficult not to go public with this as the sources asked me to keep this highly confidential. The relationship the GTROC has with Nissan in Japan is quite exceptional and we would not want, for the sake of a few photos, to prejudice this relationship. As well as being a member of a thriving community and a very passionate enthusiast it is sometimes extremely difficult to know where to draw the line between that and the requirements of a club. The Club itself offers a list of benefits, advantages and priveleges to its members and we should recognise that any value derived by the Club should, in most cases outweigh the free membership of the forum. When the photos come out in next month's Option magazine, try ringing them and asking for a free copy of all the pictures! It's not about keeping things private for the GTROC or developing a culture of difference between the two it is about recognising those that are more dedicated, enthusiastic and supportive and rewarding that in ways that add value to the members.

I can, buut I wont, go into some other details about the car and what the GTROC is planning with regards the new car but needless to say this will unfold over time and members will be the first to hear and will most certainly be the most involved. Whilist I am sure some will disagree I apologise but still believe that this represents a fairer relationship between what the Club and the forum does for its members and users.

As for the puctures, there will be more posted here and in the Club's magazine and other 'publications'

Whether you agree or disagree thank you for your time in reading this and enjoy the pictures

[bkvj]

i think it looks beautiful in your pics paul! i always thought it looked awkward and couldnt really like it...but now!! thanks!

[Daz]

John - I feel a mistake was made when you said (having just seen the car) "what do you want to know?", as this indicated that you were going to share information/pictures. But that is done with now.

All I was interested in was seeing a couple of decent pictures (which Paul has now provided). I certainly wouldn't phone up a mag to ask for copies of their pictures - seeing them in the mag would be good enough for me. I therefore also wouldn't ask for copies of any of yours, Paul's or Scott's pictures. I also expected the car would be masked in the same way as in the "spy shots" we've been seeing, so I wasn't expecting to see anything particularly new. My interest was simply seeing some pictures taken by members of this forum of the car in the UK.

Dino has always been very kind of posted up information he's obtained and many photo's that he has taken of the car - and he could quite easily have withheld this. Instead he chooses to share with this community instead.

I don't expect you to pass on details about the car ... to be honest, I'm quite happy to wait until the car is officially released to find out more about it (in terms of engine spec and other technical details).

[stealth]

I think it's Nissans fault anyway not asking the GTROC to print pics of the car when at a public event ,as of course pics are going to show up on every car forum in the land .Now if the the GTROC have pics of the car with out the covers on that would be special and worth waiting for ,if not Nissan have just opened a can of worms for no reason apart from making sure everyone on here is talking about the car
Back to the GTR ,it looks ok from the back I think ,not really sure about its looking like a 60 grand car though ,if that is indeed the speculated price or there abouts.
Thanks Paul for some nice shots though.

[Blow Dog]

John, if Nissan GENUINELY asked you to keep quiet about the car and without pictures, then that is an absurd moment of madness that quite frankly defies all logic considering the public nature of the event - in hindsight I would have challenged the request.

I have to say (speaking from the heart) I agree with Daz. To see pictures of the car from the 350z lot instead of our own team who have had a heart-to-heart with the senior development team is disheartening and understandably provocative.

At the same time, I also understand the difficult situation you may have been put in if Nissan categorically asked you not to print photos (as crazy as that is) by way of risking your future scoops.

Still, the cat's out of the bag, the whole world has pictures, yet one of the worlds biggest GTR forums plays catch up.

[Bean]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

John, if Nissan GENUINELY asked you to keep quiet about the car and without pictures, then that is an absurd moment of madness that quite frankly defies all logic considering the public nature of the event - in hindsight I would have challenged the request.

I have to say (speaking from the heart) I agree with Daz. To see pictures of the car from the 350z lot instead of our own team who have had a heart-to-heart with the senior development team is disheartening and understandably provocative.

At the same time, I also understand the difficult situation you may have been put in if Nissan categorically asked you not to print photos (as crazy as that is) by way of risking your future scoops.

Still, the cat's out of the bag, the whole world has pictures, yet one of the worlds biggest GTR forums plays catch up.

I was in no way trying to slate Paul - far from it - or in fact anyone else at all.
Cem has just stated exactly what I was talking about and, as I said, you don't have to post everything....

[jasonp]

I still cant understand why anyone on here wasnt told about the car being at goodwood.

Im going to post everything i get told about on here from my guy in nissan, he doesnt seem to have any issues.

[Blow Dog]

Originally Posted by jasonp

I still cant understand why anyone on here wasnt told about the car being at goodwood.

Im going to post everything i get told about on here from my guy in nissan, he doesnt seem to have any issues.

The Japanese seem to work in quite mysterious ways.

[jae]

John, so when you posted "what do you want to know" it was nothing more than a peurile boast to revel in your exclusive status. Because you must have known at that point you couldn't say anything because your contacts at Nissan had asked you not to. I do not expect this sort of behaviour from the chairman of the GTR owner's club.

Asking Paul to not post information and then letting him take the flak for a while was contemptuous and rude. He only posted photos because he was getting hammered - what sort of bloke lets a good friend take that sort of shit for him?

I am am paid up member of the GTR owner's club and I am disgusted at this faux secrecy. However, I would be more forgiving if you had stated clearly in your post that you had been given exclusive access but had been requested to say nothing for now.

Poorly done. Very poorly done. This club is going places I am not sure I wish to go. But that is something for my consideration.

[Benji Linney GTC]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

The Japanese seem to work in quite mysterious ways.

true

[Hi5]

what a dissapointing thread.