NEW TARGET FOR THE GT-R

[R33_GTS-t]

Originally Posted by Blow Dog

It is unfortunate that that particular car hit another head on in Germany because the driver of the S-Tune forgot that they drive on the right over in Europe

[Fuzzy]

R33 GT-R lapping the Nürburgring in under 8 minutes.
This is what i read from the new official webpage from the new GT-R .

[R33_GTS-t]

Here's another target for the GTR:

YouTube - New supra mkV racing at nurinburg ring

[psd1]

Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t

Here's another target for the GTR:

YouTube - New supra mkV racing at nurinburg ring

Sounds awesome!!!

[bonzelite]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

R33 GT-R lapping the Nürburgring in under 8 minutes.
This is what i read from the new official webpage from the new GT-R .

Yes, but you missed item 1 on the list:

1) Nissan is a liar

Heh, didn't you know that? here is the whole list for your review:

1) Nissan is a liar
2) All 3rd party sources are a liar
3) Every source of information about the GT-R is discredible and heresay.
4) If Nissan relays any information, it is considered a conspiracy
5) If a 3rd party discloses independent testing of Nissan GT-Rs, this information is fabricated and illegitimate.
6) Any thought about a GT-R is to be monitored and reported.
7) A GT-R is a ghost and does not exist and is a fabrication.
8) Discussion of GT-R performance characteristics is akin to discussing Big Foot or the Yeti and carries no credible sources of proof or worthiness.
9) GT-R sightings on the Nurburgring are disinformation campaigns conducted in collusion between Nissan and any 3rd party entity.
10) the 997tt seen on the Nurburgring with the GT-R is a rebodied decoy bearing no provable resemblance or mechanical performance to a Porsche.
11) Porsche is in collusion with Nissan to fabricate any and all information about both cars.

[Howsie]

You are very touchy about the GT-R aren't you. Why is that?

[Z1LLA]

There are afew of you that are very touchy about the gtr allright, they have always been the underdog though, and it probably helped give them the reputation they have EARNED. And yes the r33 is heavier, but it is also better balanced than the r32, with the battery above the rear axle and the fuel tank in front of the rear axle (among other things) it is noticable. Having an r32 gtr myself and having a close friend with an r33 gtr who trusts me to drive his car every bit as hard, if not harder than he does, and that are in very similar (near stock) tune, i have no doubt that the r33 is a faster and better balanced car in stock form. well around corners anyway. after all, nissan wouldnt have spent thousands of hours and dollars if they didnt think that the car they were relasing was going to be any better than the one before it. As for the power output of later gtrs, there was an article in (the australian) Wheels magazine afew years ago that compared a r34 vspec to a monaro. both cars very dead stock and only just run in, and out of interest they dynoed them among other tests, the result, the gtr had more horsepower the the back wheels than it did in the brochure, dead stock. but that was on 98 octane fuel, take note. i cant remember the exact figures but i also remember the car ran a high 12 second pass. but as someone pointed out, changing the turbos, and the tuning as nissan did over the years, even though the number never got higher on the brochure, there is no way it didnt get higher in reality. think about it... you would be asking what was wrong if you made those changes and didnt make more power, wouldnt you???

[rasonline]

that Toyota supercar looks awesome.. hate to say it, but those lines look more supercar-like than the new GTR does and the car sounds fabulous... but let's wait and see what the final product is like.. hope the wait doesn't turn out anythign like the new GTR

[psd1]

Originally Posted by rasonline

that Toyota supercar looks awesome.. hate to say it, but those lines look more supercar-like than the new GTR does and the car sounds fabulous... but let's wait and see what the final product is like.. hope the wait doesn't turn out anythign like the new GTR

I totally agree, anyone have stills of the Supra?

[tekknikal]

its not a supra. its the lexus lf-a:



V10, 500+hp from <5.0L
mid engine mounted in front of passengers but behind front axle
rear radiators
carbon ceramic brakes, etc.


here's a thread about it on the club lexus website:
Official LF-A (II) thread (Tokyo Motor Show Oct 26/27, more info 2 b released) - Club Lexus Forums

[gavman]

my god, that looks (and sounds) awesome

[bonzelite]

Thank you, tekknikal, for clearing that up for our brothers. The NAGTROC.com moderators are in the house now ...with heavychevy making a guest appearance.

[MuXBoX]

Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t

It's a matter of physics. The original 911 GT3 made about 7:57. +60bhp, RWD and -200kg. And I don't believe that an R33 is 20+s faster than an R32.

Beleive it. It is officialy stated on nissans website. Nissan GT-R Official Global Site then highlight the link to the r33 and read the writing under the photo.

And also if you think about it, a good driver will have more bottle in a skyline than in a porsche because the porsches are a lot more hairy to drive with the weight being in the back the porsche 911 design is flawed from day 1 for many drivers. Slow in fast out is the way to drive a 911 and i never liked that and if you go too fast in and you get it wrong your back end will overtake your front.

Skyline is also the wrong setup having engine in the front but nissan have figured out how to get the best out of this setup and it doesnt need you to be hyper on caffeine with concentration lvls set to maximum to drive it well.

Obviously the best setup in the world is to have the engine in the middle with a light car and only rear wheel drive for increased lightness. These are truly the fast cars around the circuits of the world.


After all that is said. I own an r34 and i love it to bits and i am flying out to tokyo and will be putting my name down for an r35 so long as it proves to be as good looking as the concepts, has an interior to at least try to keep up with bmw (love the leather dash in some of the spyshots) and can do a respectable time around the ring.


And this will get you guys going something in the region of 7 mins 15 like autoexpress stated on their website a few months back lol. (link: Nissan GT-R | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express )

[heavychevy]

Originally Posted by MuXBoX

Beleive it. It is officialy stated on nissans website. Nissan GT-R Official Global Site then highlight the link to the r33 and read the writing under the photo.

And also if you think about it, a good driver will have more bottle in a skyline than in a porsche because the porsches are a lot more hairy to drive with the weight being in the back the porsche 911 design is flawed from day 1 for many drivers. Slow in fast out is the way to drive a 911 and i never liked that and if you go too fast in and you get it wrong your back end will overtake your front.

Skyline is also the wrong setup having engine in the front but nissan have figured out how to get the best out of this setup and it doesnt need you to be hyper on caffeine with concentration lvls set to maximum to drive it well.

Obviously the best setup in the world is to have the engine in the middle with a light car and only rear wheel drive for increased lightness. These are truly the fast cars around the circuits of the world.


After all that is said. I own an r34 and i love it to bits and i am flying out to tokyo and will be putting my name down for an r35 so long as it proves to be as good looking as the concepts, has an interior to at least try to keep up with bmw (love the leather dash in some of the spyshots) and can do a respectable time around the ring.


And this will get you guys going something in the region of 7 mins 15 like autoexpress stated on their website a few months back lol. (link: Nissan GT-R | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express )

It's not the car that's in question it's if the car had more power than a normal R33. And if you drove a GT3 you wouldnt make the comments on it being hairy to drive, it's challenging as is any other platform, but engineering has come a long way.

[MuXBoX]

Yeah it probably would have had some more power. Don't all the manufacturers bend the rules a little for the sake of marketing?