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Old 16th January 2008, 09:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Diesel Audi R8

Audi concept diesel R8

The Audi R8 Diesel Concept is revealed in Detroit

1,000Nm torque, i bet when you accelerate hard, the pull is just fantastic, be like getting kicked by a bull.

Jeremy Clarkson tested a Brabus tuned Merc with a 1,000 Nm torque and said it was practically useless as it all went through the back wheels and just spun all the time, but with the R8’s 4WD, AWSOME

Jeremy Clarkson Brabus Merc 1,000 torques YouTube - Tuned Mercedes SL - Top Gear
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Old 16th January 2008, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thing is, the petrol V8 aint exactly slow and the petrol V10 is gonna be stupid fast...so why on earth would anyone want a diesel R8, it's just plain wrong?!?! Pulling up to a filling station and grabing the black pump just aint sexy!
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Pulling up to a filling station and grabing the black pump just aint sexy!

LoL yeah.

You’re going to have all the performance of petrol and the economy of diesel in the R8, perfect combination

Only thing missing will be the engine sound, tractor springs to mind.
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Old 16th January 2008, 01:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not only did the petrol V8's sound w*** (except for Ferrari V8's and the Cosworth DFV as they are flat plane crank) but Audi have now gone and made a Diesel V12 version on their clinical "supercar"

Supercars are not about logic, economy or efficiency - havent Audi bothered to drive the rivals they are competing against or is this another example of German arrogance?

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Who cares about economy when you spend 90k on a supercar Ian?

I don't think you could say the Audi V8 sounds w**k mate [ok, it's no screaming Ferrari V8, but it aint meant to be], and anyway, a few aftermarket mods would sort that? At the end of the day, you couldn't really use a F430 everyday, the R8 you can and that's the market Audi are going for - so logic and efficiency is an important factor.

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Who cares about economy when you spend 90k on a supercar Ian?

I don't think you could say the Audi V8 sound w**k mate [ok, it's no screaming Ferrari V8, but it aint meant to be], and anyway, a few aftermarket mods would sort that? At the end of the day, you couldn't really use a F430 everyday, the R8 you can and that's the market Audi are going for - so logic and efficiency is an important factor.
In my opinion, all cross plane crank V8's sound w*** no matter what you do to them. They either sound bumbly or agricultural (i.e Dukes of hazard).

When you have a supercar, it is most quintesessential form you want an engine that sounds and feels racy.

Audi will still sell the R8, they have a strange customer base, the types who rave on about the back-light colour of their Phillips flatscreen TV or the ones who insist of using the latest and pretty looking Mac laptop - these are the types of wealthy middle-upper-middle class people that wouldnt know a real supercar is even if it was driven up their ass.
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But your racy engine aint gonna be sounding too good after spending 5 hours+ driving down to the South of France?

And you can't argue the fact the all the motoring press reckon the R8 is amazing, even bettering the 911?

Don't get me wrong, I'd choose an F430 or Gallardo over an R8 anyday [though there are both way more expensive]. Reckon I'd have a V8 Vantage over the R8 too, but I can still see why Audi have done an amazing job with their first super/GT car....though forget them all really, I'd have a new GTR over the lot
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Who cares about economy when you spend 90k on a super car Ian?
I don't think you could say the Audi V8 sounds w**k mate [ok, it's no screaming Ferrari V8, but it isn’t meant to be], and anyway, a few aftermarket mods would sort that? At the end of the day, you couldn't really use a F430 everyday, the R8 you can and that's the market Audi are going for - so logic and efficiency is an important factor.
Little bit of a contradiction there, the 3 main draw backs of having a sports / super car is that expensive outright purchase, expensive specialist maintenance and fuelling the damn thing, Audi have just cured one of the draw backs to owning such a car.

Wouldn’t it be great if you're skyline did 40 mpg but lost no performance ??
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I'd have a new GTR over the lot
Now there’s a statement I'm sure we’d all agree to !!
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Who cares about economy when you spend 90k on a supercar Ian?

I don't think you could say the Audi V8 sounds w**k mate [ok, it's no screaming Ferrari V8, but it aint meant to be], and anyway, a few aftermarket mods would sort that? At the end of the day, you couldn't really use a F430 everyday, the R8 you can and that's the market Audi are going for - so logic and efficiency is an important factor.
With respect mate the use everyday business is rubbish. I know a fellow who uses his 360 everyday. In fact so much so that he keeps putting the delivery date for his 430 back.

None the less I'd rather have the TDI over the petrol one (assuming that the heavy lump doesn't knacker the handling!). I cannot understand how an R8 costs so much more than an RS4 given the mechanical similarity of the two. At least the TDI engine is something new. I'd imagine that a remap would loosen a few ponies to...
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Anyone want to bet with would get to the the south of France first, the petrol car or the diesel version? Diesel everytime.
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But your racy engine aint gonna be sounding too good after spending 5 hours+ driving down to the South of France?

And you can't argue the fact the all the motoring press reckon the R8 is amazing, even bettering the 911?
What has Evo magazine's opinion on the R8 got to do with how nasty sounding I find a V8 or a diesel sounds?

Do you actually have a driving license or are you trying to lecture me on the finer points of european motoring from your experience with Forza and ProStreet?

Dick head teenage american.

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Don't get me wrong, I'd choose an F430 or Gallardo over an R8 anyday [though there are both way more expensive]. Reckon I'd have a V8 Vantage over the R8 too, but I can still see why Audi have done an amazing job with their first super/GT car....though forget them all really, I'd have a new GTR over the lot
Well thats your own opinion. Using a magazine which is full of its own opinions to support your own doesnt make it a fact.
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I wasn't being contradictive Ian. I meant people who will buy an R8 what something comfortable, fast, good looking [in an odd way] and that wont breakdown - not something that's kind of fuel efficient. I mean if you can afford £90k on a car, I'm sure you can afford the petrol? And anyway, the V12 TDi only returns a best of 25mpg!!!

Sidious, chill mate! We all just giving our opinion here

Mags are good for reference buddy and you got respect their opinion as they are 'experts' in the field of driving, and I sure aint! Don't kid yourself, like you some kid of driving god or something?

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Mags are good for reference buddy and you got respect their opinion as they are 'experts' in the field of driving, and I sure aint! Don't kid yourself, like you some kid of driving god or something?
I was too harsh in my last post, and I apologise.

but my opinion on the noise of a burbly V8 ruins a supercar, no matter how fast or what magazine journalists think of them.
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The R8 diesel can only be a publicity thing for Audi diesels.

It's not going to be economical in the grand scheme of things, and if you can afford to buy one, you're not going to worry about fuel costs.

They only made is because they could, surely no sensible person is going to buy one, you lose a chunk of the appeal of the car because of the noise, and the other half when you rock up in the petrol station and use the truck pumps...
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