What drift car??

[NISMO-GTR]

Right then guys & gals, some advice please....

Ive decided the next car after the GTR is going to be RWD

The drive system on the GTR does let me twitch the back end out but its not long before power is diverted to the front wheels.

If im honest, i dont want anything too quick and too much power for me to handle just going through the back wheels. Ive only had FWD or 4WD cars in my life - last 4 years have been 4WD.

I was thinking of an AE86 - 1.6 twin cam RWD, see link:

Toyota : corolla/levin rwd

But ive also looked at maybe a silvia/200sx - old school style.

Because of other commitments to a damn mortgage, things like RX7's and GTS Skylines are a NO NO, it has to be as cheap as possible, this is why an AE86 comes to mind because parts seem very cheap.

My budget would be no more than £5k.... dare i say, is there anything non-Japanese that i could look at??

Just after some ideas guys, so any input is more than welcome!!

Cheers!

[Ed.]

Originally Posted by NISMO-GTR

Right then guys & gals, some advice please....

Ive decided the next car after the GTR is going to be RWD

The drive system on the GTR does let me twitch the back end out but its not long before power is diverted to the front wheels.

If im honest, i dont want anything too quick and too much power for me to handle just going through the back wheels. Ive only had FWD or 4WD cars in my life - last 4 years have been 4WD.

I was thinking of an AE86 - 1.6 twin cam RWD, see link:

Toyota : corolla/levin rwd

But ive also looked at maybe a silvia/200sx - old school style.

Because of other commitments to a damn mortgage, things like RX7's and GTS Skylines are a NO NO, it has to be as cheap as possible, this is why an AE86 comes to mind because parts seem very cheap.

My budget would be no more than £5k.... dare i say, is there anything non-Japanese that i could look at??

Just after some ideas guys, so any input is more than welcome!!

Cheers!

Volvo 240/340/740
Almost any old BMW E28,E30 etc
Ford Sierra

All cheap and cheerful, might need to weld up the diff but its no big deal

AE86 parts are cheap, but the cars are not

[bkvj]

S13 FTW.

for 5K you can import something VERY nice from the likes of powervehicles.com.

180s in japan generally have a lot less rust than UK S13s, which is a pain on UK cars...

also, after 1991 i think, all of them came with the SR, which a lot of people prefer.

Plenty of spareparts available for both the S13 and S14, unlike the AE86 really.

[Pharoahe]

For starters begin with the BMW like Ed said, cheap cars and parts.. And as a bonus it is easy to fix

[Eikichi]

Silvia is always a good option as Bas said, easy to mod/maintain.
I think I read somewhere in here someone who's drifting with an AE86 saying that is not the top choice to learn with and it's quite difficult at the beginning.
Again, you can get loads of GTSt which are quite cheap now (~£4k)
You want mine? lol

[Miguel - Newera]

AE86 FTW!

Seriously though, like some have said here - you can't get a good one cheap nowadays. Only rusty rubbish is cheap - and that's false economy in the end.
Proper parts & tuning for them aren't cheap!
Reason why 86's are good to learn to drift with is they need to be kept reving hard to stay sideways and you often use entry speed with momentum to keep you going through a corner (& into the next). It's really rewarding once you learn it and AE86's have great balance and handling too. Very raw & pure cars. Once you learn to drift an AE86, drifting a more powerful car is said to be relatively easy too.

Silvias are the easiest cars to drift. Lightweight front end, good power, balance, etc. In some ways how sideways you go is proportional to how much throttle you apply with these. Watch out - don't buy one that's lived a hard drift life though. These cars can get quite a hammering and they make a lot of heat under the bonnet too, especially if they're sideways a lot.

Skyline GTSt's can make OK drift cars too, although the front's a bit heavy and can push wide on the tighter corners. We see people fit SR20 engines to Skylines here, to get frontal weight down and further back.

We don't see them drifted here at all, but BMW's seem to be popular drift cars in Europe, probably for good reason. Cheap and plentiful parts, and quite powerful engines in some models. You can also do stuff like switch diffs from smaller engined models, to get higher gearing.

Welding diffs is a cheap alternative to a proper 2 way diff, but as this tends to want to make your car go straight (In tight corners especially) unless the wheels are kept spinning, it's a flawed idea. You can shim your std. Torsen LSD on some cars and make it work better, without the discomfort of a poermanently locked diff.

[NISMO-GTR]

Apologies for not knowing this but, whats FTW mean??

I did think of the BMW's and that, but if im honest, every imported Jap car ive had has never let me down, id much rather prefer another import to a Euro car, but i will do some more investigation. Most of them would be automatics though i would of thought, unless i go for an old 3 series??

The S13 does sound like it could be a preferred option, and sounds like it would be well in my budget.

I dont want to buy a shed to learn and crash - i would like to just own 1 car, take care of it and learn in a safe environment with that (tracks and airfields) so the chance of crashing would....... no, better be safe and say "should" be heavily reduced..

Ive had a look on Powerviechals.com and will contact them to see whats around in japan.


many thanks for replies though guys, most appreciated!

[Miguel - Newera]

FTW = For the Win

Andy @ Powervehicles is the most drift crazy Gaijin Scotsman I know and usually has some interesting drift prepared Silvias for sale in his yard too. Give him a tinkle

Drifting's a lot more fun doing, than watching

[SteveN]

As you dont have anything in particular in mind, just a "drift car" it goes like this...

If your serious, I agree with Ed. Anything RWD is a drift car.

If you got no imagination, get an 86 or S13.

If you want summat different, pick an unusual RWD of any type that you like and there you go, ideal base.
I got a RB26 powered JZX81 Chaser drift car, which is about as odd as you can get in the UK.

[turboslippers]

5k???? As per my other thread I bought the below as a day to day car that was also up for some sideways action. £2200 and it's an early sport so has the LSD already fitted (along with sport bilstein shocks). That leaves you loads of money left over to blow on wh*res and drugs (if thats your thing)

[banzai g]

Nissan 200sx s14 !!! Bit of engine work, stage 1 , a good 2 way diff and coilovers !!!!

Cheap fun and very easy to learn to drift in !!!!

Ive had ae86's ,m3's etc.

Ae86's are getting old and parts are scarce ,the're a cult car over here with

massive following.

M3's and that have tricky handling ! Not good for a first time rwd car.

For the money the s14 is by far the best fun value .

[paul cawson]

I would go for a AE86 , good DIY mechanics should be able to carry out most jobs on the car including gearbox overhaul. I have read It was one of the design requirements.
OEM Parts are still available from the main dealers, but after market parts are harder to find

Flickr Photo Download: My AE86

[Joeingo]

i would say get an s13 although a AE86 is good too, but that one piston heads link is way to much, 5k pounds is way too much for an AE86, in the states they run between $1000 and $3000 USD so that is pretty overpriced in my oppinion

[paul cawson]

Originally Posted by Joeingo

i would say get an s13 although a AE86 is good too, but that one piston heads link is way to much, 5k pounds is way too much

Thats what A RHD AE86 with the slightly more powerful 4AGE (Map sensor)engine will sell for, another for sale

Toyota : Twin Cam

[JapFreak786]

i've got 2 different 4 dr R32s that are both RWD but havea auto box's fitted to them,pm me for prices as currently both are for sale
and they're both under £2k